Обсуждение: Better spam filtering?
Folks, Is there anything that we can do to filter more spam on press@ ? There's now so much spam coming through (80-90 messages a day) that it's impossible to track the few legitimate messages. As much as I hate the thought, maybe we need mailback whitelisting. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:07:11 -0700 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Folks, > > Is there anything that we can do to filter more spam on press@ ? There's now > so much spam coming through (80-90 messages a day) that it's impossible to > track the few legitimate messages. have you been login into maia and doign *any* Bayes training at all? *I'm* not seeing 80-90 messages per day of spam ... is there any pattern to it? same from address, maybe? same subject? - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGw0q24QvfyHIvDvMRAuP5AKClxoaMoyW6tJzt6lOC6wUslr+51ACg1sN/ fp2UfGCdhY7sLGiwf1Wvyck= =yFNH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marc, > have you been login into maia and doign *any* Bayes training at all? > *I'm* not seeing 80-90 messages per day of spam ... is there any pattern > to it? same from address, maybe? same subject? No, I told you when you installed Maia that it was unusable (and I'm not the only one). I gave up on it a year ago. When it gets a decent interface, I might give it another try. The spams seem to come in bursts, which means their single-sourced, but they're using a botnet so you can't filter that way. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, when you come up with something better, do let me know ... my other clients use it and haven't had any complaints, and its well used ... - --On Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:00:29 -0700 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Marc, > >> have you been login into maia and doign *any* Bayes training at all? >> *I'm* not seeing 80-90 messages per day of spam ... is there any pattern >> to it? same from address, maybe? same subject? > > No, I told you when you installed Maia that it was unusable (and I'm not > the only one). I gave up on it a year ago. When it gets a decent > interface, I might give it another try. > > The spams seem to come in bursts, which means their single-sourced, but > they're using a botnet so you can't filter that way. > > -- > --Josh > > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL @ Sun > San Francisco - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGw1BO4QvfyHIvDvMRAp1EAKCN+Cg4MbeSwfrhR9Cnb8CYh5VGfACfTxW1 my9MygL3zDyQmP8ztk6r+yk= =SHgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marc, > Well, when you come up with something better, do let me know ... my other > clients use it and haven't had any complaints, and its well used ... Sure. Standard spamassassin. Dspam. Anything which allows me to flag spam *through an e-mail interface*, and does not require me to flag *every single message in the queue* in order to flag any of them. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:28:59 -0700 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Marc, > >> Well, when you come up with something better, do let me know ... my other >> clients use it and haven't had any complaints, and its well used ... > > Sure. Standard spamassassin. Dspam. Anything which allows me to flag spam > *through an e-mail interface*, and does not require me to flag *every single > message in the queue* in order to flag any of them. Flag them all as Delete and then only flag those as spam that you want to so that the others don't affect your Bayes database? But, as press@postgresql.org is a mailing list, and not a mailbox, who do you propose 'flagging spam through an e-mail interface'? What we could do is remove the mailing list, make it a mailbox and let you download email via POP3 so that you could then setup whatever you want on your desktop for spam tagging / filtering ... the only ppl on press are greg@turnstep.com, you and I ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGxJJC4QvfyHIvDvMRAhpgAKCHn0DwJHLgyx7wDBaURGDokWl1WwCgpF09 +Zb6+BvNzq1kiyXnPs7nowc= =sed6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:06:58PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > But, as press@postgresql.org is a mailing list, and not a mailbox, who do you > propose 'flagging spam through an e-mail interface'? Setup email aliases for training spam/ham. I can provide an example. -- Decibel!, aka Jim Nasby decibel@decibel.org EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just as an FYI ... the reason press has been getting so much spam is because someone disabled the spam scanning on it, and virus, and ... by default, all @postgresql.org addresses have this enabled, but at some point, it got disabled on that specific address ... I have re-enabled it ... - --On Thursday, August 16, 2007 15:31:08 -0500 Decibel! <decibel@decibel.org> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:06:58PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> But, as press@postgresql.org is a mailing list, and not a mailbox, who do >> you propose 'flagging spam through an e-mail interface'? > > Setup email aliases for training spam/ham. I can provide an example. > -- > Decibel!, aka Jim Nasby decibel@decibel.org > EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGxLlh4QvfyHIvDvMRAtcOAKCqC2UYcuAmT1R3uQnnlp64bIEKCQCdHHKX nqtH+LBiphEEpT5fFrxJH0Q= =XFKC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----