Обсуждение: archive threads across months (was Re: [HACKERS] List schema contents)
Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes:
> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that
> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...)
Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone
on -www have an idea how to fix it?
regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote: > Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > on -www have an idea how to fix it? I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Tom Lane wrote: > Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: >> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that >> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > on -www have an idea how to fix it? Someone that knows mhonarc better then I might know of a way, but, I don't believe cross-month linking is actually possible ... majordomo stores archives by month in mbox format ... mhonarc processes each month and deposits it into a directory YYYY-MM ... without merging all of the mbox files into one huge archive file, and eliminating the YYYY-MM subdirectories, I don't believe that you could do this ... But, as I said, someone with more knowledge about mhonarc may know a way of doing this ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) >> >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > >> > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >>> Tom Lane wrote: >>>> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: >>>>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that >>>>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) >>>> >>>> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone >>>> on -www have an idea how to fix it? >>> >>> I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries >>> at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. >> >> please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. Wait, you are talking Search results, not ordering in the archives themselves ... can't help you with that one, sorry ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On Jun 10, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) >> >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > Someone that knows mhonarc better then I might know of a way, but, > I don't believe cross-month linking is actually possible ... > > majordomo stores archives by month in mbox format ... mhonarc > processes each month and deposits it into a directory YYYY-MM ... > without merging all of the mbox files into one huge archive file, > and eliminating the YYYY-MM subdirectories, I don't believe that > you could do this ... > > But, as I said, someone with more knowledge about mhonarc may know > a way of doing this ... ? Are we wed to mhonarc? Is there another archiving tool we could use? -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Jim Nasby wrote: > On Jun 10, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Tom Lane wrote: >> >>> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: >>>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that >>>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) >>> >>> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone >>> on -www have an idea how to fix it? >> >> Someone that knows mhonarc better then I might know of a way, but, I don't >> believe cross-month linking is actually possible ... >> >> majordomo stores archives by month in mbox format ... mhonarc processes >> each month and deposits it into a directory YYYY-MM ... without merging all >> of the mbox files into one huge archive file, and eliminating the YYYY-MM >> subdirectories, I don't believe that you could do this ... >> >> But, as I said, someone with more knowledge about mhonarc may know a way of >> doing this ... ? > > Are we wed to mhonarc? Is there another archiving tool we could use? I'll never say we're *wed* to anything ... do you know of another archiving tool? I think the first question is are there any other ones that offer the functionality that Tom is asking for ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 08:48 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > >> > > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. > Thats due to a bug in the search engine, not the archives themselves. ... John
John Hansen wrote: > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 08:48 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > > >> > > > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > > > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > > > > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. > > > > Thats due to a bug in the search engine, not the archives themselves. OK, how does it get fixed? -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 21:34 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > John Hansen wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 08:48 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > > > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > > > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > > > >> > > > > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > > > > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > > > > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > > > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > > > > > > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > > > > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > > > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. > > > > > > > Thats due to a bug in the search engine, not the archives themselves. > > OK, how does it get fixed? Someone needs to fix the ASPseek source... >
John Hansen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 21:34 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > John Hansen wrote: > > > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 08:48 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > > > > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > > > > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > > > > > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > > > > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > > > > > > > > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > > > > > > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > > > > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. > > > > > > > > > > Thats due to a bug in the search engine, not the archives themselves. > > > > OK, how does it get fixed? > > Someone needs to fix the ASPseek source... Have we submitted a bug report to them? -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 22:01 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > John Hansen wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 21:34 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > John Hansen wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 08:48 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > > >> Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > > > > > >>> (The fact that archives.p.o can't properly link between threads that > > > > > > >>> cross month boundaries is pretty annoying...) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Indeed, I was just annoyed by that (again) a few minutes ago. Anyone > > > > > > >> on -www have an idea how to fix it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also having problems that the date sorting often has a few entries > > > > > > > at the end of out of order. I think that needs to be fixed too. > > > > > > > > > > > > please provide a sample of what you are talking about ... :) > > > > > > > > > > Sure, search for "misnomer" and sorty by date. Look at the last page. > > > > > You will see 2005 entries that should have appeared earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats due to a bug in the search engine, not the archives themselves. > > > > > > OK, how does it get fixed? > > > > Someone needs to fix the ASPseek source... > > Have we submitted a bug report to them? > The project is more or less dead, only the userbase still exists. And the version we're running is heavily modified. I will get around to fixing this, I just don't have the time at present. ... John