Обсуждение: UltraSQL for Windows released
Hiyas, Just noticed on the NuSphere site that it says UltraSQL for Windows is now available: http://www.nusphere.com/products/#UltraSQL Did that happen some time ago and I missed it, or is that something new? Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift
Does anyone have a contact person over there they could contact to find out more? ISTM a lot of people would be interested in this. Robert Treat On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 03:18, Justin Clift wrote: > Hiyas, > > Just noticed on the NuSphere site that it says UltraSQL for Windows is > now available: > > http://www.nusphere.com/products/#UltraSQL > > Did that happen some time ago and I missed it, or is that something new? > > Regards and best wishes, > > Justin Clift > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Robert Treat wrote: > Does anyone have a contact person over there they could contact to find > out more? ISTM a lot of people would be interested in this. Not me. Does Jan still keep in contact with them? Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Robert Treat
Guys, > Not me. Does Jan still keep in contact with them? I already contacted Jan about this, but don't know how much he wants me to repeat. Jan? -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Jan Wieck wrote: > > That they link to postgresql.com instead of postgresql.org is a little > > odd. Have you asked Marc if there is any connection here? I mean they > > use their logo and point to their site, that can lead to assumptions. Ummm, the logo is the standard PostgreSQL one, and postgresql.com is a CNAME for postgresql.org (our URL is http://www.pgsql.com) ... no connection to PgSQL, Inc that I'm aware of ... we have no reference to it on our web site ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Hi all, > Ummm, the logo is the standard PostgreSQL one, and postgresql.com is a > CNAME for postgresql.org (our URL is http://www.pgsql.com) ... no > connection to PgSQL, Inc that I'm aware of ... we have no reference to it > on our web site ... > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate(having projects to use our image). -- Euler Taveira de Oliveira euler (at) ufgnet.ufg.br Desenvolvedor Web e Administrador de Sistemas UFGNet - Universidade Federal de Goiás
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote: > Hi all, > > > Ummm, the logo is the standard PostgreSQL one, and postgresql.com is a > > CNAME for postgresql.org (our URL is http://www.pgsql.com) ... no > > connection to PgSQL, Inc that I'm aware of ... we have no reference to it > > on our web site ... > > > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones > (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate (having > projects to use our image). Why? Is someone using the logo maliciously that we need to worry about? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Hi > > > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones > > (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate (having > > projects to use our image). > > Why? Is someone using the logo maliciously that we need to worry about? > No, but if we associate 'SomeProductSQL' to the PostgreSQL Logo, it seems that it is *in fact* PostgreSQL and it's not! -- Euler Taveira de Oliveira euler (at) ufgnet.ufg.br Desenvolvedor Web e Administrador de Sistemas UFGNet - Universidade Federal de Goiás
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote: > Hi > > > > > > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones > > > (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate (having > > > projects to use our image). > > > > Why? Is someone using the logo maliciously that we need to worry about? > > > No, but if we associate 'SomeProductSQL' to the PostgreSQL Logo, it > seems that it is *in fact* PostgreSQL and it's not! Isn't it? Its PostgreSQL packaged for Windows, no? Same software, just packaged for easy install ... the only thing I think should be different is that the logo be clickable back to the main web site ... but they do state that its a "native Windows port of PostgreSQL database." so it isn't as if they are trying to hide it ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Jan Wieck wrote: > Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > >> Ummm, the logo is the standard PostgreSQL one, and postgresql.com is a > >> CNAME for postgresql.org (our URL is http://www.pgsql.com) ... no > >> connection to PgSQL, Inc that I'm aware of ... we have no reference to it > >> on our web site ... > >> > > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate(having projects to use our image). > > Is it "our image"? It isn't "owned" by anyone, but it is the PostgreSQL logo ... IMHO, use of it should be available as long as it is used to represent the project (ie. for UltraSQL, I think it is okay since they are referring to, and linking to, the project right beside it) ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote: > Hi all, > >> Ummm, the logo is the standard PostgreSQL one, and postgresql.com is a >> CNAME for postgresql.org (our URL is http://www.pgsql.com) ... no >> connection to PgSQL, Inc that I'm aware of ... we have no reference to it >> on our web site ... >> > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate(having projects to use our image). Is it "our image"? Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #
Josh Berkus wrote: > Guys, > >> Not me. Does Jan still keep in contact with them? > > I already contacted Jan about this, but don't know how much he wants me to > repeat. Jan? > I wrote: > Josh, > > I knew that they still planned to get back on that. The point is, that > the old NuSphere got thrown together with PeerDirect and operates under > that name now. The name NuSphere now is the Moscow office of ... if only > I knew what. > > So it might be a bit of a problem to get someone responsible for that > "supported" part of their product offer. Also I am not sure how much > PostgreSQL expertise is available to them. The product description does > not mention schema or namespace support. So I guess that is more or less > a rewrap of the 7.2 port Katie and I did. > > That they link to postgresql.com instead of postgresql.org is a little > odd. Have you asked Marc if there is any connection here? I mean they > use their logo and point to their site, that can lead to assumptions. > > > Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #
Hi all > > Isn't it? Its PostgreSQL packaged for Windows, no? Same software, just > > packaged for easy install ... the only thing I think should be different > > is that the logo be clickable back to the main web site ... but they do > > state that its a "native Windows port of PostgreSQL database." so it isn't > > as if they are trying to hide it ... > > Not exactly. It is the NuSphere (AKA PeerDirect) native Win32 port of > PostgreSQL, which is based on 7.2.1 (they didn't even bother to apply a > 7.2.1 - 7.2.4 delta yet). I don't think the full source code is > available and the stuff is not at all peer reviewed by the PostgreSQL > community. > > It seems that the advocacy ppl would check it. The PostgreSQL is under BSD License but it doesn't imply that every productderivate from it could use the same "publicity" as the original project. ppl can be false ideas from PostgreSQL ifit eventually occurs. We need to be tight in this point. That's my opinion. Comments? -- Euler Taveira de Oliveira euler (at) ufgnet.ufg.br Desenvolvedor Web e Administrador de Sistemas UFGNet - Universidade Federal de Goiás
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote: > >> Hi >> >> > >> > > Don't we have a kind of 'logo license' like the Debian ones >> > > (http://www.debian.org/logos/)? I think this is inappropriate (having >> > > projects to use our image). >> > >> > Why? Is someone using the logo maliciously that we need to worry about? >> > > >> No, but if we associate 'SomeProductSQL' to the PostgreSQL Logo, it >> seems that it is *in fact* PostgreSQL and it's not! > > Isn't it? Its PostgreSQL packaged for Windows, no? Same software, just > packaged for easy install ... the only thing I think should be different > is that the logo be clickable back to the main web site ... but they do > state that its a "native Windows port of PostgreSQL database." so it isn't > as if they are trying to hide it ... Not exactly. It is the NuSphere (AKA PeerDirect) native Win32 port of PostgreSQL, which is based on 7.2.1 (they didn't even bother to apply a 7.2.1 - 7.2.4 delta yet). I don't think the full source code is available and the stuff is not at all peer reviewed by the PostgreSQL community. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #