Обсуждение: THE Postgres WEB SITE
Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres web site?? For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the web site? If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or links to it) from the main Postgres site, right? Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? Usually it reads something like this one that I just got: "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? looked on the website and only found linux binaries and source." What's up with that? Byron
Since I've never had to go looking before, I had never thought about
it...but, that sort of stuff should be listed under the Software
link...*shrug* Vince, can you maybe add an 'Interfaces' link off of
Software?
Also, while at it, the XShare link from the 'Info->Related Projects' is
kinda dead ... :(
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Byron Nikolaidis wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres
> web site??
>
> For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC
> driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the
> web site?
>
> If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the
> Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or
> links to it) from the main Postgres site, right?
>
> Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers
> and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we?
>
> I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is???
> Usually it reads something like this one that I just got:
>
> "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? looked on
> the
> website and only found linux binaries and source."
>
> What's up with that?
>
> Byron
>
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
On 12-Nov-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>
> Since I've never had to go looking before, I had never thought about
> it...but, that sort of stuff should be listed under the Software
> link...*shrug* Vince, can you maybe add an 'Interfaces' link off of
> Software?
Actually I've already started putting this one together.
>
> Also, while at it, the XShare link from the 'Info->Related Projects' is
> kinda dead ... :(
Yeah, I see. Wonder when that happened...
Vince.
>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Byron Nikolaidis wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres
>> web site??
>>
>> For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC
>> driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the
>> web site?
>>
>> If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the
>> Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or
>> links to it) from the main Postgres site, right?
>>
>> Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers
>> and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we?
>>
>> I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is???
>> Usually it reads something like this one that I just got:
>>
>> "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? looked on
>> the
>> website and only found linux binaries and source."
>>
>> What's up with that?
>>
>> Byron
>>
>
> Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
> Systems Administrator @ hub.org
> primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
>
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I don't get as many as you, but average about 5 emails a week asking where the JDBC driver is. I think we could do with atleast a page describing the various interfaces, and where to get them (both in source and compiled [if appropriate] formats). Peter -----Original Message----- From: Byron Nikolaidis [mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:03 AM To: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Thomas Lockhart; Peter Mount; Dave Page Subject: THE Postgres WEB SITE Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres web site?? For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the web site? If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or links to it) from the main Postgres site, right? Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? Usually it reads something like this one that I just got: "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? looked on the website and only found linux binaries and source." What's up with that? Byron
I agree that the site does need better links to software and related projects. I've just had a look at the site to remind myself, and it is very difficult to find things (as I recall I previously used to look at the listing of the additional software on the distribution CD if I wanted to know what else was out there). Perhaps 3 sections: Interfaces/APIs (ODBC, JDBC etc) Tools (pgAdmin, pgBash etc.) Application Software The third section is one I would be interested in. My staff and I are writing software for PostgreSQL that maybe of use to others, and I'm sure others must be doing the same (either commercial or open source - in fact if any has any financial ledgers...). I appreciate that the User Gallery is (intended as) a listing of what PostgreSQL is being used for/with, but perhaps a more moderated list of what people can actually download or buy would attract more potential users. Regards, Dave. -- Network & Systems Manager, The Vale Housing Association. http://www.vale-housing.co.uk (Work) http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk (Home of pgAdmin) Beer can be a permanent solution, but only if you have enough of it! > -----Original Message----- > From: Byron Nikolaidis [mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com] > Sent: 12 November 1999 01:03 > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org > Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Thomas Lockhart; Peter Mount; Dave Page > Subject: THE Postgres WEB SITE > > > > Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres > web site?? > > For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, > or the JDBC > driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the > web site? > > If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the > Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or > links to it) from the main Postgres site, right? > > Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers > and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? > > I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? > Usually it reads something like this one that I just got: > > "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? > looked on > the > website and only found linux binaries and source." > > What's up with that? > > Byron >
Hi, Dave Page wrote: > > Perhaps 3 sections: > > Interfaces/APIs (ODBC, JDBC etc) > Tools (pgAdmin, pgBash etc.) > Application Software > > The third section is one I would be interested in. My staff and I are > writing software for PostgreSQL that maybe of use to others, and I'm sure > others must be doing the same (either commercial or open source - in fact if > any has any financial ledgers...). I appreciate that the User Gallery is > (intended as) a listing of what PostgreSQL is being used for/with, but > perhaps a more moderated list of what people can actually download or buy > would attract more potential users. Good idea - imho this site should be THE "starting-place" looking for pgsql-apps in the future. (If this is intended/feasibly by the maintainers of the site) Regards,- Rolf _____________________________________________________________________ "Rolf Luettecke" <rluettecke@gcd.de> Gesellschaft für Computer- u. Datentechnik mbH http://www.gcd.de Internet Business Solutions _____________________________________________________________________
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Dave Page wrote: > I agree that the site does need better links to software and related > projects. I've just had a look at the site to remind myself, and it is very > difficult to find things (as I recall I previously used to look at the > listing of the additional software on the distribution CD if I wanted to > know what else was out there). *hang head* that's what I've always done too :) > The third section is one I would be interested in. My staff and I are > writing software for PostgreSQL that maybe of use to others, and I'm sure > others must be doing the same (either commercial or open source - in fact if > any has any financial ledgers...). I appreciate that the User Gallery is > (intended as) a listing of what PostgreSQL is being used for/with, but > perhaps a more moderated list of what people can actually download or buy > would attract more potential users. Jeff has been working on cleaning up the User Gallery listing to get rid of the cruft...but... If I were to sit down this weekend and write up an "Applications" listings page, what fields should be included? This is the biggest problem I have with doing this, I never know what all should be included :( If someone wants to make me a form that looks good and is complete, I'll do up the backend coding and setup the databases for this...I can write code, but I'm *terrible* at doing visuals ... > -- > Network & Systems Manager, The Vale Housing Association. > http://www.vale-housing.co.uk (Work) > http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk (Home of pgAdmin) > Beer can be a permanent solution, but only if you have enough of it! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Byron Nikolaidis [mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com] > > Sent: 12 November 1999 01:03 > > To: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org > > Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Thomas Lockhart; Peter Mount; Dave Page > > Subject: THE Postgres WEB SITE > > > > > > > > Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres > > web site?? > > > > For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, > > or the JDBC > > driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the > > web site? > > > > If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the > > Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or > > links to it) from the main Postgres site, right? > > > > Why put people through the aggravation of trying to hunt down drivers > > and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? > > > > I get at least 3 or 4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? > > Usually it reads something like this one that I just got: > > > > "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? > > looked on > > the > > website and only found linux binaries and source." > > > > What's up with that? > > > > Byron > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
Dave Page wrote: > I agree that the site does need better links to software and related > projects. I've just had a look at the site to remind myself, and it is very > difficult to find things (as I recall I previously used to look at the > listing of the additional software on the distribution CD if I wanted to > know what else was out there). There certainly can be improvement to the existing site. However, I am reminded of the site I saw over two years ago, when I was first installing 6.1.1. I want to commend those who have improved the site from what it was then -- documentation, organization, the mailing list archives, the browseable CVS tree, etc, are light-years ahead of the site then. I fully expect, with the talent we have, that the site in two more years will be even better. So, while it would be nice to have more pointers to things such as pgAdmin and pgBash (and I fully support a page of pointers!), the site is in fairly good shape now. Also, I believe that we should have a link to the Debian packages that Oliver puts together somewhere on the download page. I would also like to see someone start maintaining a package for Win32 that is a self-extracting, fully installable/uninstallable setup -- having such a streamlined installation for Win32, IMO, would be a big win. If we can't ship the libraries required to run the Win32 (the CygWin stuff) inside an installable package, I believe we should provide a link to where the libraries can be located. I remember what it was like getting installation details two years ago.... It wasn't fun, but it was possible. What reminded me of that was an e-mail question I received regarding the installation of the RPM's. There are a few steps that I hadn't elaborated upon (because they were trivially obvious to me) that were confusing an RPM user (a rank newbie, at that -- man, it was a trip down memory lane explaining to him how to get PostgreSQL up on RedHat....) -- now, the RPM documentation will be better, due to his question. OBTW: No, I'm not volunteering to maintain the Win32 packages -- I do all my development work on Linux. JMHO, of course. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Lamar Owen wrote:
> Also, I believe that we should have a link to the Debian packages that
> Oliver puts together somewhere on the download page. I would also like
> to see someone start maintaining a package for Win32 that is a
> self-extracting, fully installable/uninstallable setup -- having such a
> streamlined installation for Win32, IMO, would be a big win. If we
> can't ship the libraries required to run the Win32 (the CygWin stuff)
> inside an installable package, I believe we should provide a link to
> where the libraries can be located.
Can someone tell me *where* I can find information on makign a nice, fully
installable Win32 package? We have the resources to do this, but I've
avoided Win32 as much as possible, so the knowledge is lacking...
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
The Hermit Hacker wrote: > If I were to sit down this weekend and write up an "Applications" listings > page, what fields should be included? This is the biggest problem I have > with doing this, I never know what all should be included :( > > If someone wants to make me a form that looks good and is complete, I'll > do up the backend coding and setup the databases for this...I can write > code, but I'm *terrible* at doing visuals ... While it doesn't directly answer your question, there is a source of information on applications for PostgreSQL -- the PostgreSQL-HOWTO, which I include as part of the RPM distribution (on RedHat's insistence -- the RPM's they shipped with RedHat 6.1 HAD to have that HOWTO, ITNSHO). This HOWTO has a pretty comprehensive list of things -- its only detraction is that it is a _Linux_ HOWTO. The PostgreSQL HOWTO as I package it can be pulled from http://www.ramifordistat.net/postgres/unpacked/non-beta/PostgreSQL-HOWTO-html.tar.gz Or, you can view the latest version online at http://metalab.unc.edu/linux/HOWTO/PostgreSQL-HOWTO.html I know how you feel about Linux, Marc....but this HOWTO has some good things in it that transcends the linux-centric HOWTO list. Thomas, this HOWTO, like all HOWTO's, is sourced in SGML. The current maintainer is Al Dev (Alavoor Vasudevan) <alavoor@yahoo.com>, last update October 23, 1999. Now, as to a form for application listings, try: 1.) Name 2.) Author 3.) License and cost if commercial 4.) Website (hyperlinked) 5.) Download direct link 6.) Size (??) 7.) Rating (??) (one to five elephants, maybe, in the tucows tradition?) 8.) Detailed description, preferably pulled from the author's readme or website documentation. 9.) User reviews (??) Or, just look at Linuxberg, tucows, and Simtel (and whatever the BSD communities have in the same vein) for ideas of an application listing. HTH -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11
<br />Hi, <p>if you look for Links to PostgreSQL-Software, try the <br /><a href="http://www.postgresql.de">www.postgresql.de</a>-> Software <br />I've searched the Internet and wrote a list; notperfectly and complete, <br />but very many items and the Links should be correct. <br />Unfortunetally some descriptionsare only in german... (If you've some questions, <br />I can help you) <p>The main-sections, i used, are: <br/>1. PostgreSQL-Standarddistribution = the Software in the official distribution <br />2. Erweiterungen für PostgreSQl,außerhalb der Distribution = PostgreSQL-Enhancements outside the distro <br />3. Software für/for PostgreSQL <br/>4. Projekte mit PostgreSQL = PostgreSQL-projects <br />4. Weitere Software für PostgreSQL finden = find another PostgreSQL-Software<br />5. PostgreSQL-Webhosting <p>I hope, my list is helpful. If something is wrong, please send me corrections...<p>Bye <br />Gerald Leppert <br /> <br /> <p>Dave Page wrote: <blockquote type="CITE">I agree that the sitedoes need better links to software and related <br />projects. I've just had a look at the site to remind myself, andit is very <br />difficult to find things (as I recall I previously used to look at the <br />listing of the additionalsoftware on the distribution CD if I wanted to <br />know what else was out there). <p>Perhaps 3 sections: <p>Interfaces/APIs(ODBC, JDBC etc) <br />Tools (pgAdmin, pgBash etc.) <br />Application Software <p>The third section isone I would be interested in. My staff and I are <br />writing software for PostgreSQL that maybe of use to others, andI'm sure <br />others must be doing the same (either commercial or open source - in fact if <br />any has any financialledgers...). I appreciate that the User Gallery is <br />(intended as) a listing of what PostgreSQL is being usedfor/with, but <br />perhaps a more moderated list of what people can actually download or buy <br />would attract morepotential users. <br /> <p>Regards, <p>Dave. <p>-- <br />Network & Systems Manager, The Vale Housing Association.<br /><a href="http://www.vale-housing.co.uk">http://www.vale-housing.co.uk</a> (Work) <br /><a href="http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk">http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk</a>(Home of pgAdmin) <br />Beer can be a permanentsolution, but only if you have enough of it! <p>> -----Original Message----- <br />> From: Byron Nikolaidis[<a href="mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com">mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com</a>] <br />> Sent: 12 November1999 01:03 <br />> To: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org <br />> Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Thomas Lockhart; PeterMount; Dave Page <br />> Subject: THE Postgres WEB SITE <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> Is it just me,or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres <br />> web site?? <br />> <br />> For example, I wouldlike to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, <br />> or the JDBC <br />> driver, yet there are no links that I can findto these things on the <br />> web site? <br />> <br />> If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY*interface to the <br />> Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or <br />> links toit) from the main Postgres site, right? <br />> <br />> Why put people through the aggravation of trying to huntdown drivers <br />> and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? <br />> <br />> I get at least 3 or4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? <br />> Usually it reads something like this one that I just got:<br />> <br />> "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? <br />> looked on <br />> the<br />> website and only found linux binaries and source." <br />> <br />> What's up with that? <br />> <br/>> Byron <br />> <p>************</blockquote><br />
Lamar Owen wrote: > ITNSHO). This HOWTO has a pretty comprehensive list of things -- its > only detraction is that it is a _Linux_ HOWTO. > > The PostgreSQL HOWTO as I package it can be pulled from > http://www.ramifordistat.net/postgres/unpacked/non-beta/PostgreSQL-HOWTO-html.tar.gz > > Or, you can view the latest version online at > http://metalab.unc.edu/linux/HOWTO/PostgreSQL-HOWTO.html [NOTE: Take what you read in this HOWTO with a grain of salt, as there are several known errors in it. The PostgreSQL documentation is the canonical set for PostgreSQL -- this HOWTO is not. It does, however, have a list of applications that use PostgreSQL -- which is what I pointing out.] -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11
Hi, <p>if you look for Links to PostgreSQL-Software, try the <br /><a href="http://www.postgresql.de">www.postgresql.de</a>-> Software <br />I've searched the Internet and wrote a list; notperfectly and complete, <br />but very many items and the Links should be correct. <br />Unfortunetally some descriptionsare only in german... (If you've some questions, <br />I can help you) <p>The main-sections, i used, are: <br/>1. PostgreSQL-Standarddistribution = the Software in the official distribution <br />2. Erweiterungen für PostgreSQl,außerhalb der Distribution = PostgreSQL-Enhancements outside the distro <br />3. Software für/for PostgreSQL <br/>4. Projekte mit PostgreSQL = PostgreSQL-projects <br />4. Weitere Software für PostgreSQL finden = find another PostgreSQL-Software<br />5. PostgreSQL-Webhosting <p>I hope, my list is helpful. If something is wrong, please send me corrections...<p>Bye <br />Gerald Leppert <br /> <br /> <p>Dave Page wrote: <blockquote type="CITE">I agree that the sitedoes need better links to software and related <br />projects. I've just had a look at the site to remind myself, andit is very <br />difficult to find things (as I recall I previously used to look at the <br />listing of the additionalsoftware on the distribution CD if I wanted to <br />know what else was out there). <p>Perhaps 3 sections: <p>Interfaces/APIs(ODBC, JDBC etc) <br />Tools (pgAdmin, pgBash etc.) <br />Application Software <p>The third section isone I would be interested in. My staff and I are <br />writing software for PostgreSQL that maybe of use to others, andI'm sure <br />others must be doing the same (either commercial or open source - in fact if <br />any has any financialledgers...). I appreciate that the User Gallery is <br />(intended as) a listing of what PostgreSQL is being usedfor/with, but <br />perhaps a more moderated list of what people can actually download or buy <br />would attract morepotential users. <br /> <p>Regards, <p>Dave. <p>-- <br />Network & Systems Manager, The Vale Housing Association.<br /><a href="http://www.vale-housing.co.uk">http://www.vale-housing.co.uk</a> (Work) <br /><a href="http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk">http://www.pgadmin.freeserve.co.uk</a>(Home of pgAdmin) <br />Beer can be a permanentsolution, but only if you have enough of it! <p>> -----Original Message----- <br />> From: Byron Nikolaidis[<a href="mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com">mailto:byron.nikolaidis@home.com</a>] <br />> Sent: 12 November1999 01:03 <br />> To: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org <br />> Cc: The Hermit Hacker; Thomas Lockhart; PeterMount; Dave Page <br />> Subject: THE Postgres WEB SITE <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> Is it just me,or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres <br />> web site?? <br />> <br />> For example, I wouldlike to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, <br />> or the JDBC <br />> driver, yet there are no links that I can findto these things on the <br />> web site? <br />> <br />> If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY*interface to the <br />> Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or <br />> links toit) from the main Postgres site, right? <br />> <br />> Why put people through the aggravation of trying to huntdown drivers <br />> and so forth? We do want to attract users don't we? <br />> <br />> I get at least 3 or4 emails a day asking where the odbc driver is??? <br />> Usually it reads something like this one that I just got:<br />> <br />> "Where can I get the latest Postgres ODBC client for windows? <br />> looked on <br />> the<br />> website and only found linux binaries and source." <br />> <br />> What's up with that? <br />> <br/>> Byron <br />> <p>************</blockquote><br /> <br />
> -----Original Message----- > From: The Hermit Hacker [mailto:scrappy@hub.org] > Sent: 12 November 1999 13:38 > To: Dave Page > Cc: 'Byron Nikolaidis'; pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org; Thomas > Lockhart; Jeff MacDonald; Peter Mount > Subject: RE: THE Postgres WEB SITE <snip> > Jeff has been working on cleaning up the User Gallery listing > to get rid > of the cruft...but... > > If I were to sit down this weekend and write up an > "Applications" listings > page, what fields should be included? This is the biggest > problem I have > with doing this, I never know what all should be included :( > > If someone wants to make me a form that looks good and is > complete, I'll > do up the backend coding and setup the databases for this...I > can write > code, but I'm *terrible* at doing visuals ... How automated would this be? I would suggest that all updates to the listing are done by yourself (or whoever else may be a PostgreSQL webmaster) and that any form on the site is merely a mail form. This way all the 'Applications' (as opposed to systems that are specific to a particular user or site) can be listed in a standardised format, have any links verified and be generally checked for suitability for inclusion. I see this section as being a listing of quality applications rather than a list that anyone can add their two field address book to (no offence toward any address book vendors intended!). Suggested fields: Application Name Application Function (eg. Financial Ledger, Helldesk etc.) Application Description Platform(s) (Win32, Solaris etc.) Written In (Visual Basic, TCL etc.) Interface (ODBC, JDBC etc.) Company Name (optional) Contact Name Contact Email Contact Phone (optional) Regards, Dave.
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 10:07:44AM -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > > Now, as to a form for application listings, try: > 1.) Name > 2.) Author > 3.) License and cost if commercial > 4.) Website (hyperlinked) > 5.) Download direct link > 6.) Size (??) > 7.) Rating (??) (one to five elephants, maybe, in the tucows tradition?) > 8.) Detailed description, preferably pulled from the author's readme or > website documentation. > 9.) User reviews (??) > 10.) Version(s) of pgsql known to work with it. Ross -- Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu> NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer Computer and Information Technology Institute Rice University, 6100 S. Main St., Houston, TX 77005
Byron Nikolaidis <byron.nikolaidis@home.com> el día Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:03:04 -0500, escribió: >Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres >web site?? > >For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC >driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the >web site? > >If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the >Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or >links to it) from the main Postgres site, right? 100% agreed. and I add: the web site doesn't work well without javascript. (very, very annoying) Sergio
Lamar Owen wrote: ... >Also, I believe that we should have a link to the Debian packages that >Oliver puts together somewhere on the downloadpage. http://packages.debian.org is sufficient; since Debian has a central repository, Debian users should not need detailed URLs for the individual packages, and the packages will not be much use to non-Debian users. -- Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ ======================================== Oliver Elphick Oliver.Elphick@lfix.co.uk Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID32B8FAA1 ======================================== "He that loveth father of mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37,38
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> Byron Nikolaidis <byron.nikolaidis@home.com> el d�a Thu, 11 Nov 1999
> 20:03:04 -0500, escribi�:
>
> >Is it just me, or is it very difficult to find things on the Postgres
> >web site??
> >
> >For example, I would like to download Pgaccess, or PgAdmin, or the JDBC
> >driver, yet there are no links that I can find to these things on the
> >web site?
> >
> >If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the
> >Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or
> >links to it) from the main Postgres site, right?
>
> 100% agreed.
>
> and I add: the web site doesn't work well without javascript.
> (very, very annoying)
Huh? I have Javascript disabled in my browser and haven't noticed any
problems with it yet *raised eyebrow*
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>
> > >If a person needs the odbc or jdbc driver, or *ANY* interface to the
> > >Postgres database, one would think he should be able to find it (or
> > >links to it) from the main Postgres site, right?
> >
> > 100% agreed.
> >
> > and I add: the web site doesn't work well without javascript.
> > (very, very annoying)
>
> Huh? I have Javascript disabled in my browser and haven't noticed any
> problems with it yet *raised eyebrow*
easy, very easy to proof: View -> Page source (in navigator at least)
you will find something like:
<SCRIPT>
<!----browserName = navigator.appName; browserVer = parseInt(navigator.appVersion); if (browserVer >= 4)
{
img('as1');
img('as2');
img('as3');
img('as4');
img('as5');
}
//----->
</SCRIPT>
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You can have it soon, cheap and working; choose *two*.