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Board for developers

От
Oleg Bartunov
Дата:
Hi there,

just interested do we have a place where developers could post
their availability for contract work ?

For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so 
companies could evaluate it.
    Regards,        Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru),
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83


Re: Board for developers

От
"Magnus Hagander"
Дата:
> Hi there,
> 
> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
> their availability for contract work ?
> 
> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so 
> companies could evaluate it.
> 

A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...

/Magnus



Re: Board for developers

От
Oleg Bartunov
Дата:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:

>> Hi there,
>>
>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>> their availability for contract work ?
>>
>> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>> companies could evaluate it.
>>
>
> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...

The question is how it's visible to companies ?

>
> /Magnus
>
    Regards,        Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru),
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83


Re: Board for developers

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:24:15 +0300 (MSK)
Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> 
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
> >> their availability for contract work ?
> >>
> >> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
> >> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related
> >> projects, mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list
> >> somewhere, so companies could evaluate it.
> >>
> >
> > A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
> 
> The question is how it's visible to companies ?

This really doesn't belong on -hackers... :). 

Can we move it to -www?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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Re: Board for developers

От
Heikki Linnakangas
Дата:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> 
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>>> their availability for contract work ?
>>>
>>> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
>>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>>> companies could evaluate it.
>>>
>>
>> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
> 
> The question is how it's visible to companies ?

We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for 
postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable 
there. Not sure how much visibility that has.

--   Heikki Linnakangas  EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com


Re: Board for developers

От
"Merlin Moncure"
Дата:
On Dec 17, 2007 3:23 PM, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
> >>> their availability for contract work ?
> >>>
> >>> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
> >>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
> >>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
> >>> companies could evaluate it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
> >
> > The question is how it's visible to companies ?
>
> We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for
> postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable
> there. Not sure how much visibility that has.

Personally, I think Josh is right in terms of using community
resources to promote developers, beyond what's already there.
Unfortunately the jobs list is better suited for people offering jobs,
not job seekers.  Maybe an expansion of the developer section of the
web page might be a good place to indirectly make contact.

If you are looking for consulting work, I would suggest moving your
page to a more of a blog type format, and publish at least
semi-regularly.

Make sure your feed is picked up on postgresql.org, of course :-).
Contract work I know very little about.  I suspect it is going to
depend on how well you can leverage your personal contacts.  Many
companies are nervous outsourcing DBA work (and in my experience there
is lots of high paying work out there, at least in the U.S.) because
better suited to a long term position.

Being famous as part of the brains behind GIST is certainly something.Relentless self promotion helps :-).

merlin


Re: Board for developers

От
Oleg Bartunov
Дата:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Merlin Moncure wrote:

> On Dec 17, 2007 3:23 PM, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>>>>> their availability for contract work ?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example,  I and Teodor will be available soon
>>>>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>>>>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>>>>> companies could evaluate it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
>>>
>>> The question is how it's visible to companies ?
>>
>> We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for
>> postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable
>> there. Not sure how much visibility that has.
>
> Personally, I think Josh is right in terms of using community
> resources to promote developers, beyond what's already there.
> Unfortunately the jobs list is better suited for people offering jobs,
> not job seekers.  Maybe an expansion of the developer section of the
> web page might be a good place to indirectly make contact.

I think this is the best place. Wiki is a good place for todo and proposals,
not for companies.

>
> If you are looking for consulting work, I would suggest moving your
> page to a more of a blog type format, and publish at least
> semi-regularly.
>
> Make sure your feed is picked up on postgresql.org, of course :-).
> Contract work I know very little about.  I suspect it is going to
> depend on how well you can leverage your personal contacts.  Many
> companies are nervous outsourcing DBA work (and in my experience there
> is lots of high paying work out there, at least in the U.S.) because
> better suited to a long term position.
>
> Being famous as part of the brains behind GIST is certainly something.
> Relentless self promotion helps :-).

It looks like most developers are already employed. Some of them have 
full-time postgres-related position and they don't needed any promotion,
others could work on small projects in spare time only and also don't
interested in such promotion.

Our situation is different, we have involved into many postgres-related 
projects, some of them rather popular and we have permanent pressure 
from users to improve, extend, support our products. We also have our 
Todo list (http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/wiki/todo), we'd happy to work on,
instead of working on some weird contract work. I'm sure there are companies,
which need K-neighbourhood search or better GIN update, but how  let them 
know this is doable and developers are waiting for suppport :)
Probably, it should be done in a more friendly form.
    Regards,        Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru),
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83


Re: Board for developers

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:09:28 +0300 (MSK)
Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> wrote:

> Our situation is different, we have involved into many
> postgres-related projects, some of them rather popular and we have
> permanent pressure from users to improve, extend, support our
> products. We also have our Todo list
> (http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/wiki/todo), we'd happy to work on,
> instead of working on some weird contract work. I'm sure there are

Speaking as the PostgreSQL Liaison, I would rather have you contact me
about how long of a time you would be available and based on that time
a quantity of TODO items that you feel you could complete in that time.

Based on that I *might* be able to raise some money from our corporate
sponsors to allow you to remain productive in the community for the
community.

I know that CMD would participate and although I am being presumptuous
I pretty sure EDB is also a no brainer.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake




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