Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
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On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:49 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were > used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were > used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc. More than once I've found myself > wanting to verify that information about an installation. So I'm > considering adding options to pg_config to record the more interesting > Makefile variables: On a related topic, why is pg_config not part of the RPM builds? (Yes, I know the values are hard wired in the RPM). There doesn't appear to be a written explanation of why this is... Or am I missing something more obvious? Best Regards, Simon Riggs
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
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On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 11:26 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > >Simon Riggs writes: > > > >>On a related topic, why is pg_config not part of the RPM builds? > > > >Hmm? It's definitely in Red Hat's RPMs, can't speak for anyone else's. > > > >(Red Hat puts it in the postgresql-devel RPM, which might be a poor > >choice, but it's there.) > > > > That's where it is in the PDGD rpms too: > > [andrew@alphonso ~]$ rpm -q -l -p postgresql-devel-8.0.3-1PGDG.i686.rpm > 2>/dev/null | grep bin/pg_config > /usr/bin/pg_config OK... I was at a client site when I ran that the other day and it sounds like they just hadn't installed the devel rpm. Guess I hadn't noticed which rpm it was actually in previously. Thanks, Best Regards, Simon Riggs
small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc. More than once I've found myself wanting to verify that information about an installation. So I'm considering adding options to pg_config to record the more interesting Makefile variables: pg_config --ccpg_config --cppflagspg_config --cflagspg_config --cflags_slpg_config --ldflagspg_config --ldflags_slpg_config --libs Comments? Are these option names okay, or do they need to be more verbose? Any other settings worth recording? regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Andrew Dunstan writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> pg_config --cc >> pg_config --cppflags >> pg_config --cflags >> pg_config --cflags_sl >> pg_config --ldflags >> pg_config --ldflags_sl >> pg_config --libs > I would be tempted to have one flag called, say, --build-env which has > all the interesting settings from the build environment in one hit. I thought about that too, but the advantage of separate options is that it'd be relatively easy for programs to pull out and use the values. For instance, this could be handy for configuring an external addon. I believe the --configure option is specifically designed to allowconfigure `pg_config --configure` to work sanely. The one-flag way would be human readable but not program friendly. regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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I wrote: > Andrew Dunstan writes: >> I would be tempted to have one flag called, say, --build-env which has >> all the interesting settings from the build environment in one hit. > The one-flag way would be human readable but not program friendly. OTOH there's nothing saying we can't do both. Actually, I now remember having also wished for a "pg_config --all" switch that would dump out everything the program knows. The existing UI makes you ask pretty-please for each tidbit, and that gets old fast. Would --all serve what you had in mind, or do you specifically want --build-env? regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Andrew Dunstan writes: > --all would be fine. In fact, why not make it the default? We could do that. Any objections out there? regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Jeff MacDonald <jam@zoidtechnologies.com>
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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:25:16PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andrew Dunstan writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> pg_config --cc > >> pg_config --cppflags > >> pg_config --cflags > >> pg_config --cflags_sl > >> pg_config --ldflags > >> pg_config --ldflags_sl > >> pg_config --libs > > > I would be tempted to have one flag called, say, --build-env which has > > all the interesting settings from the build environment in one hit. > > I thought about that too, but the advantage of separate options is that > it'd be relatively easy for programs to pull out and use the values. > For instance, this could be handy for configuring an external addon. > I believe the --configure option is specifically designed to allow > configure `pg_config --configure` > to work sanely. > > The one-flag way would be human readable but not program friendly. > > regards, tom lane > how about both? have the various single-variable options, and another (like '--build-env') that presents a human readable list for posting in bug reports or web pages showing build environments and such.. regards, J
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
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David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 04:10:08PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andrew Dunstan writes: > > --all would be fine. In fact, why not make it the default? > > We could do that. Any objections out there? +1 in favor of making '--all' the default behavior :) Cheers, D -- David Fetter david@fetter.org http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100 mobile: +1 415 235 3778 Remember to vote!
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
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Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 20:49 schrieb Tom Lane: > Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were > used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were > used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc. If you put these flags onto the configure command line, then they are recorded. E.g.: $ ./pg_config --configure '--prefix=/home/peter/devel/pg81/pg-install' 'CFLAGS=-W' This is good for reproducing the build. If you really want to know everything about the build environment, then you should look into config.log. We shouldn't install config.log by default because it contains information that you might not want to publish, but it's the place to look at for diagnosing the build environment.
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Simon Riggs writes: > On a related topic, why is pg_config not part of the RPM builds? Hmm? It's definitely in Red Hat's RPMs, can't speak for anyone else's. (Red Hat puts it in the postgresql-devel RPM, which might be a poor choice, but it's there.) regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Peter Eisentraut writes: > Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 20:49 schrieb Tom Lane: >> Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were >> used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were >> used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc. > If you put these flags onto the configure command line, then they are > recorded. E.g.: > $ ./pg_config --configure > '--prefix=/home/peter/devel/pg81/pg-install' 'CFLAGS=-W' Sure, but people frequently do not do it that way. The point of my proposal was to make sure we could find out the flags actually used after-the-fact, whether or not config.log is still around. regards, tom lane
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
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Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
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Tom Lane wrote: >Currently, pg_config will tell about the configure options that were >used, but it does not let you find out if any environment variables were >used to determine CC, CFLAGS, etc. More than once I've found myself >wanting to verify that information about an installation. So I'm >considering adding options to pg_config to record the more interesting >Makefile variables: > > pg_config --cc > pg_config --cppflags > pg_config --cflags > pg_config --cflags_sl > pg_config --ldflags > pg_config --ldflags_sl > pg_config --libs > >Comments? Are these option names okay, or do they need to be more >verbose? Any other settings worth recording? > > > > I would be tempted to have one flag called, say, --build-env which has all the interesting settings from the build environment in one hit. cheers andrew
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
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Tom Lane wrote: >I wrote: > > >>Andrew Dunstan writes: >> >> >>>I would be tempted to have one flag called, say, --build-env which has >>>all the interesting settings from the build environment in one hit. >>> >>> > > > >>The one-flag way would be human readable but not program friendly. >> >> > >OTOH there's nothing saying we can't do both. > >Actually, I now remember having also wished for a "pg_config --all" >switch that would dump out everything the program knows. The existing >UI makes you ask pretty-please for each tidbit, and that gets old fast. >Would --all serve what you had in mind, or do you specifically want >--build-env? > > > > --all would be fine. In fact, why not make it the default? This has always struck me as a bit lame: [andrew@alphonso inst]$ bin/pg_config pg_config: argument required Try "pg_config --help" for more information [andrew@alphonso inst]$ cheers andrew
Re: small proposal: pg_config record flag variables?
От:
Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
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Tom Lane wrote: >Simon Riggs writes: > > >>On a related topic, why is pg_config not part of the RPM builds? >> >> > >Hmm? It's definitely in Red Hat's RPMs, can't speak for anyone else's. > >(Red Hat puts it in the postgresql-devel RPM, which might be a poor >choice, but it's there.) > > That's where it is in the PDGD rpms too: [andrew@alphonso ~]$ rpm -q -l -p postgresql-devel-8.0.3-1PGDG.i686.rpm 2>/dev/null | grep bin/pg_config /usr/bin/pg_config cheers andrew
