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Hi all,

Congratulations and many thanks indeed to all the organisers of and
speakers at the conference in Paris. A great couple of days, with really
interesting talks...and a really enjoyable session in the pub on Friday
night!

Ray.

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2009/11/12 Raymond O'Donnell <rod@iol.ie>:
> Hi all,
>
> Congratulations and many thanks indeed to all the organisers of and
> speakers at the conference in Paris. A great couple of days, with really
> interesting talks...and a really enjoyable session in the pub on Friday
> night!
>
> Ray.
>
> --
> Raymond O'Donnell :: Galway :: Ireland
> rod@iol.ie
>

I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950

Thom

On 12/11/2009 00:18, Thom Brown wrote:

> I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
> well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
> hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
> Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950

Heh heh.... I was gone by then - glad it's been preserved on video! :-)

Ray.

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rod@iol.ie

Yes. The conference could not be faulted. I had a great time. The
venue was perfect. I really love Paris. I want to go back very soon.

Pictures here:

http://mha.smugmug.com/Conferences/PostgreSQL/PGDayEU-2009/10262763_bg6oF#708207723_hjhTg

Regards,
Peter Geoghegan

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:

> I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
> well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
> hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
> Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950

Meh - that one could have gone better. Possibly if I was slightly less
hungover for example (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
wine and scotch anyway?)

:-)

Do you have any more videos?

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:41, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
>> well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
>> hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
>> Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950
>
> Meh - that one could have gone better. Possibly if I was slightly less
> hungover for example (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
> wine and scotch anyway?)

Wasn't that actually your idea? I would blame JD but I think he had
left by then?


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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:41, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
>>> well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
>>> hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
>>> Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950
>>
>> Meh - that one could have gone better. Possibly if I was slightly less
>> hungover for example (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
>> wine and scotch anyway?)
>
> Wasn't that actually your idea? I would blame JD but I think he had
> left by then?

Certainly not mine (I would have stuck with the scotch) - I have a
vague recollection that it may have been Simon.


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2009/11/12 Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
>> well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
>> hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
>> Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950
>
> Meh - that one could have gone better. Possibly if I was slightly less
> hungover for example (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
> wine and scotch anyway?)
>
> :-)
>
> Do you have any more videos?
>
Yes, I've got loads, but with their bitrate being 5 megabytes per
second (no, not megabits!), I have to re-encode them with a lower
resolution and much lower bitrate just so I can upload them.
Unfortunately some are better than others since my attention was torn
between trying to record it and actually watching the talks.

Thom

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:57:59AM +0200, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> > (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
> > wine and scotch anyway?)
>
> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)

YOU wasn't there! ;-)

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PGDay.eu 2009 in Paris, Nov. 6/7, http://www.pgday.eu/

On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
> wine and scotch anyway?)

**Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)

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Devrim GÜNDÜZ escribió:
> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> > (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
> > wine and scotch anyway?)
>
> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)

Maybe JD?

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2009/11/12 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>:
> Devrim GÜNDÜZ escribió:
>> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
>> > (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
>> > wine and scotch anyway?)
>>
>> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
>
> Maybe JD?

Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
European party :-p

http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/

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Ok a *bit* off-topic here... ;-)
But who's this? He reminds me after a programming maraton! :-D
Or after a cognac after red wine! :-P

Whoever your are... Cheers Mate! ;)

BR,
Pedro


On 11/12/2009 05:24 PM, Dave Page wrote:
> 2009/11/12 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>:
>> Devrim GÜNDÜZ escribió:
>>> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
>>>> (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red wine and
>>>> scotch anyway?)
>>>
>>> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
>>
>> Maybe JD?
>
> Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
> European party :-p
>
> http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/
>
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On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 17:24 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> >> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
> >
> > Maybe JD?
>
> Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
> European party :-p
>
> http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/
>

*sigh* I really should have been there :-)

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It's Joshua Drake, aka JD.

On 11/12/09, Pedro Doria Meunier <pdoria@netmadeira.com> wrote:
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> Ok a *bit* off-topic here... ;-)
> But who's this? He reminds me after a programming maraton! :-D
> Or after a cognac after red wine! :-P
>
> Whoever your are... Cheers Mate! ;)
>
> BR,
> Pedro
>
>
> On 11/12/2009 05:24 PM, Dave Page wrote:
>> 2009/11/12 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>:
>>> Devrim GÜNDÜZ escribió:
>>>> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
>>>>> (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red wine and
>>>>> scotch anyway?)
>>>>
>>>> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
>>>
>>> Maybe JD?
>>
>> Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
>> European party :-p
>>
>> http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/
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On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 18:47 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> It's Joshua Drake, aka JD.

> >>>> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> >>>>> (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red wine and
> >>>>> scotch anyway?)
> >>>>
> >>>> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
> >>>
> >>> Maybe JD?
> >>
> >> Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
> >> European party :-p
> >>
> >> http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/
> >>

I had no idea that European beer was uhmm, twice as strong as US
counterparts. I knew I was in trouble when people (Dave Page) poured
Scotch into my water. It was time to go before I got into a LOT of
trouble :P

Joshua D. Drake


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On 12/11/2009 19:01, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> I had no idea that European beer was uhmm, twice as strong as US
> counterparts. I knew I was in trouble when people (Dave Page) poured
> Scotch into my water. It was time to go before I got into a LOT of
> trouble :P

Hmmm....it's usually supposed to be the other way around - water into
Scotch, I mean. Mind you, a lot of people would say that mixing Scotch
and water is a mortal sin to begin with. :-)

Dave seemed to have an endless supply of those little drinks tickets -
it would have been *very* easy to get into trouble!

Ray.

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rod@iol.ie

> I had no idea that European beer was uhmm, twice as strong as US
> counterparts. I knew I was in trouble when people (Dave Page) poured
> Scotch into my water. It was time to go before I got into a LOT of
> trouble :P
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>

btw, the "normal" beer is twice as strong as the US one (around 5.4%
here usually).
you can also get "bock bier" (as we call it in austria), however.
it is in the area of 12% :).
THIS is beer *g*. you need just the fingers of one hand to count if you
had more than enough *g*.

i can send you a bottle, if you want.

    hans


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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Hans-Juergen Schoenig <hs@cybertec.at> wrote:
>
>> I had no idea that European beer was uhmm, twice as strong as US
>> counterparts. I knew I was in trouble when people (Dave Page) poured
>> Scotch into my water. It was time to go before I got into a LOT of
>> trouble :P
>>
>> Joshua D. Drake
>>
>>
>
> btw, the "normal" beer is twice as strong as the US one (around 5.4% here
> usually).
> you can also get "bock bier" (as we call it in austria), however.
> it is in the area of 12% :).
> THIS is beer *g*. you need just the fingers of one hand to count if you had
> more than enough *g*.

Not that I'd want to discourage anyone sending beer to anyone, but...
Though perhaps well outside the mainstream US beer drinkers normal
experience there are a good variety of barley wines, Trappist type
ales, bocks and doppelbocks available in the US. The whole category of
high test beer is a fav of mine, and I'd agree you shouldn't need more
than a couple of fingers to know when you've had enough.   Personally,
I'd say it's more like:

select limit from beer where type in ( 'Barley wine', 'Trappist',
'Bock', 'Doppelbock' )

limit
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  1

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On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 18:47 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> It's Joshua Drake, aka JD.

> >>>> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:41 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> >>>>> (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red wine and
> >>>>> scotch anyway?)
> >>>>
> >>>> **Perfect** idea -- but it was not me ;)
> >>>
> >>> Maybe JD?
> >>
> >> Hahahahaha. He went back to his hotel early, unable to cope with a
> >> European party :-p
> >>
> >> http://img132.yfrog.com/i/3e9o.jpg/
> >>

I had no idea that European beer was uhmm, twice as strong as US
counterparts. I knew I was in trouble when people (Dave Page) poured
Scotch into my water. It was time to go before I got into a LOT of
trouble :P

Joshua D. Drake


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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/12 Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I second that.  I wasn't sure quite what to expect, but it was very
>> > well organised and executed.  And thanks to our French hosts whose
>> > hard work really paid off too!  The talks were excellent, especially
>> > Gavin M. Roy's lightning talk ;)  : http://vimeo.com/7561950
>>
>> Meh - that one could have gone better. Possibly if I was slightly less
>> hungover for example (whose idea was it to have Cognac after beer, red
>> wine and scotch anyway?)
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Do you have any more videos?
>>
>
> Benoît has given me permission to post his lightning talk on
> Objectwiz: http://vimeo.com/7600607

If you can add the links for any videos you publish to the wiki page
at http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGDay.EU%2C_Paris_2009, that would
be good.

> Maybe I should try to nick the sound at source next time.

Not sure it would have worked this time - there seemed to be 2
seperate PA systems on the main stage - and we only had direct access
to the one that the radio mike receivers weren't connected to.

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
> Had I actually anticipated that I'd record them, I'd have brought my shotgun
> mic for my camera instead of using the rubbish built-in mic. Oh well :(  It
> would be nice if someone would record the sessions as part of the event so
> that there aren't people like me trying to hold a camera steady on the desk.
>  Maybe something to consider for the next one? ;)

Yeah, Magnus and I were chatting about that the other day. I think we
should spend some money and buy some inexpensive cameras and tripods
along with a bunch of memory cards for next year, and record
everything. I know other PUGs/conferences series have done that with
good results.

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:52:22AM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
>
> I think we should spend some money and buy some inexpensive cameras
> and tripods along with a bunch of memory cards for next year, and
> record everything. I know other PUGs/conferences series have done that
> with good results.

On FOSDEM this attempt failed two years in a row. Last year the reason
was: the camera had to be on the top level line with seats. Else it
would only record parts of the room, eeither only the speaker and not
the projector wall or vise versa. But this camera position resulted in a
very bad light situation and in addition the sun protection darkened the
room even more.

You not only need a camera, you also need someone operating this camera
all the time.


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On 11/14/09, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <ads@pgug.de> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:52:22AM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
>>
>> I think we should spend some money and buy some inexpensive cameras
>> and tripods along with a bunch of memory cards for next year, and
>> record everything. I know other PUGs/conferences series have done that
>> with good results.
>
> On FOSDEM this attempt failed two years in a row. Last year the reason
> was: the camera had to be on the top level line with seats. Else it
> would only record parts of the room, eeither only the speaker and not
> the projector wall or vise versa. But this camera position resulted in a
> very bad light situation and in addition the sun protection darkened the
> room even more.
>
> You not only need a camera, you also need someone operating this camera
> all the time

Yeah, I figured that we'd get the room hosts to do that. Buying people
with the cameras may be hard (and possibly illegal in some parts of
Europe).

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Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <ads@pgug.de> wrote:

>> I think we should spend some money and buy some inexpensive cameras
>> and tripods along with a bunch of memory cards for next year, and
>> record everything. I know other PUGs/conferences series have done that
>> with good results.

> On FOSDEM this attempt failed two years in a row. Last year the reason
> was: the camera had to be on the top level line with seats. Else it
> would only record parts of the room, eeither only the speaker and not
> the projector wall or vise versa. But this camera position resulted in a
> very bad light situation and in addition the sun protection darkened the
> room even more.

> You not only need a camera, you also need someone operating this camera
> all the time.

At another conference, the camera's focus was on the speaker
the whole time and the slides were edited in later, thus
making them more legible. Of course, this requires either a
"camera" operator who switches the video input when appro-
priate or two recordings that are edited in post-production.

Tim

2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>:
> 2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>
>>
>> Mr Fetter has allowed me to post his lightning talk on lightning talks:
>> http://vimeo.com/7602006
>> Thom
>
> Harald's lightning talk also available with his
> permission: http://vimeo.com/7610987
> Thom

Sorry, I've only just noticed that I'd accidently set Harald's video
from password-protected to completely private.  Fixed now.

Thom

2009/11/15 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>:
> 2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>:
>> 2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Mr Fetter has allowed me to post his lightning talk on lightning talks:
>>> http://vimeo.com/7602006
>>> Thom
>>
>> Harald's lightning talk also available with his
>> permission: http://vimeo.com/7610987
>> Thom
>
> Sorry, I've only just noticed that I'd accidently set Harald's video
> from password-protected to completely private.  Fixed now.
>
> Thom
>

Koen Marten's lightning talk video now given the go-ahead:
http://vimeo.com/7603429

Thom

Thanks for working on these Thom.

/D

On 11/16/09, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/15 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>:
>> 2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/11/14 Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Mr Fetter has allowed me to post his lightning talk on lightning talks:
>>>> http://vimeo.com/7602006
>>>> Thom
>>>
>>> Harald's lightning talk also available with his
>>> permission: http://vimeo.com/7610987
>>> Thom
>>
>> Sorry, I've only just noticed that I'd accidently set Harald's video
>> from password-protected to completely private.  Fixed now.
>>
>> Thom
>>
>
> Koen Marten's lightning talk video now given the go-ahead:
> http://vimeo.com/7603429
>
> Thom
>


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2009/11/16 Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>:
> Thanks for working on these Thom.
>
No problem, although I'm disappointed with the output.  A bit of
planning before I left the UK and it would have been better.  Oh well,
better than nothing.