Обсуждение: Archives / News gateway

Hi all,

I've noticed, when using google to look through the newsgroup archives,
that the news gateway still seems unreliable. (I switched from news to
mail a few months back for this reason). For example, I replied
yesterday to the "order by a XML column" message, and my reply came back
to me (and is in the mail archives) but hasn't appeared in the newsgroup
version (this is using a newsreader attached to news.postgresql.org - so
the google archive won't have it either).

I don't know what (if anything) can be done about this -but if people
are looking for answers on the newsgroups they may think we're being
unfriendly when they don't get an answer.

Regards

John

John Gray wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've noticed, when using google to look through the newsgroup archives,
> that the news gateway still seems unreliable. (I switched from news to
> mail a few months back for this reason). For example, I replied
> yesterday to the "order by a XML column" message, and my reply came back
> to me (and is in the mail archives) but hasn't appeared in the newsgroup
> version (this is using a newsreader attached to news.postgresql.org - so
> the google archive won't have it either).
>
> I don't know what (if anything) can be done about this -but if people
> are looking for answers on the newsgroups they may think we're being
> unfriendly when they don't get an answer.

Yes, I have seen the same thing.  Marc wants to know if it shows in at
NNTP server news.postgresql.org.  I just attached to it and can see
messages, so please verify the missing messages against that server and
report back.  Thanks.

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I am sorry, if I am asking a stupid question. I am new to this mailing list,
just subscribed yesterday... I did not know about the news server being available
until I read this thread...
I'd really prefer to use a news reader over receiving e-mails, if possible...
So, I went to news.postgresql.org and subscribed to com.databases.postgres.general
(is it the right one?). Somehow, the messages I see there are COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT than what I received by mail (what's in mail is not in the news,
and what's in the news is not in the mail)...
Am I just looking at a wrong server/group? Or am I missing something else
here?

I'd greatly appreciate any help. Thank you very much!

Dima

Bruce Momjian wrote:

  John Gray wrote:

    Hi all,I've noticed, when using google to look through the newsgroup archives,that the news gateway still seems
unreliable.(I switched from news tomail a few months back for this reason). For example, I repliedyesterday to the
"orderby a XML column" message, and my reply came backto me (and is in the mail archives) but hasn't appeared in the
newsgroupversion(this is using a newsreader attached to news.postgresql.org - sothe google archive won't have it
either).Idon't know what (if anything) can be done about this -but if peopleare looking for answers on the newsgroups
theymay think we're beingunfriendly when they don't get an answer. 

    Yes, I have seen the same thing.  Marc wants to know if it shows in atNNTP server news.postgresql.org.  I just
attachedto it and can seemessages, so please verify the missing messages against that server andreport back.  Thanks. 

On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 15:30, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> John Gray wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've noticed, when using google to look through the newsgroup archives,
> > that the news gateway still seems unreliable. (I switched from news to
> > mail a few months back for this reason). For example, I replied
> > yesterday to the "order by a XML column" message, and my reply came back
> > to me (and is in the mail archives) but hasn't appeared in the newsgroup
> > version (this is using a newsreader attached to news.postgresql.org - so
> > the google archive won't have it either).
> >
> > I don't know what (if anything) can be done about this -but if people
> > are looking for answers on the newsgroups they may think we're being
> > unfriendly when they don't get an answer.
>
> Yes, I have seen the same thing.  Marc wants to know if it shows in at
> NNTP server news.postgresql.org.  I just attached to it and can see
> messages, so please verify the missing messages against that server and
> report back.  Thanks.

The NNTP server news.postgresql.org is the one I'm using -the postgresql
groups aren't carried by my ISP (are they official?).

The only two messages from the "order by a XML column" thread on the
news server are the original, and a reply by Joseph Scraibman.

There are certainly messages on the news server, but they don't
consistute all the messages posted to -general.

Regards

John