Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools?

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools?
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Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <HECTOR_25E@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
RE: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <hector_25e@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
RE: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <hector_25e@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
RE: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <hector_25e@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Alban Hertroys <haramrae@gmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
RE: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <hector_25e@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
RE: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? HECTOR INGERTO <hector_25e@hotmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Rob Sargent <robjsargent@gmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Are ZFS snapshots unsafe when PGSQL is spreading through multiple zpools? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 03:22:02PM +0000, HECTOR INGERTO wrote:
> > Another case: a transaction COMMITs, and a slightly later transaction reads
> the data
> > and sets a hint bit.  If the snapshot of the file system with the data
> directory in it
> > is slightly later than the snapshot of the file system with "pg_wal", the
> COMMIT might
> > not be part of the snapshot, but the hint bit could be.
> >
> > Then these uncommitted data could be visible if you recover from the
> snapshot.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Laurenz Albe
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you all. I have it clearer now.
> 
>  
> 
> As a last point. Making the snapshot to the WAL dataset first or last would
> make any difference?

How would you know which WAL snapshot to use, and if there is any
missing data between them?

I have often wondered if we could document rules where multiple
asychronous snapshots would be safe but have never gotten very far.

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