Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option
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Nathan Bossart
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Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option
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20220703171742.GB1048244@nathanxps13
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[PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Pavel Luzanov <p.luzanov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option tushar <tushar.ahuja@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: replacing role-level NOINHERIT with a grant-level option Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles Joshua Brindle <joshua.brindle@crunchydata.com>
Re: [PATCH v2] use has_privs_for_role for predefined roles "Bossart, Nathan" <bossartn@amazon.com>
On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 11:04:28PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:16 PM Nathan Bossart wrote: >> I was thinking that when DEFAULT was removed, pg_dump would just need to >> generate WITH INHERIT TRUE/FALSE based on the value of rolinherit for older >> versions. Using the role-level property as the default for future grants >> seems a viable strategy, although it would break backward compatibility. >> For example, if I create a NOINHERIT role, grant a bunch of roles to it, >> and then change it to INHERIT, the role won't begin inheriting the >> privileges of the roles it is a member of. Right now, it does. > > I think the idea you propose here is interesting, because I think it > proves that committing v2 or something like it doesn't really lock us > into the role-level property any more than we already are, which at > least makes me feel slightly less bad about that option. However, if > there's implacable opposition to any compatibility break at any point, > then maybe this plan would never actually be implemented in practice. > And if there's not, maybe we can be bolder now. If by "bolder" you mean "mark [NO]INHERIT as deprecated-and-to-be-removed and begin emitting WARNINGs when it and WITH INHERIT DEFAULT are used," I think it's worth consideration. I suspect it will be hard to sell removing [NO]INHERIT in v16 because it would introduce a compatibility break without giving users much time to migrate. I could be wrong, though. -- Nathan Bossart Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
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