Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints

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Nico Williams
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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints
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[HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
[HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Robbie Harwood <rharwood@redhat.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Robbie Harwood <rharwood@redhat.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option forconstraints Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@visena.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option for constraints Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] WIP Add ALWAYS DEFERRED option forconstraints Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@visena.com>
On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 01:41:45PM -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 11/2/17 16:54, Nico Williams wrote:
> > Replacing condeferred and condeferrable with a char columns also
> > occurred to me, and though I assume backwards-incompatible changes to
> > pg_catalog tables are fair game, I assumed everyone would prefer
> > avoiding such changes where possible.
> 
> I don't think there is an overriding mandate to avoid such catalog
> changes.  Consider old clients that don't know about your new column.
> They might look at the catalog entries and derive information about a
> constraint, not being aware that there is additional information in
> another column that overrides that.  So in such cases it's arguably
> better to make a break.

Makes sense.

> (In any case, it might be worth waiting for a review of the rest of the
> patch before taking on a significant rewrite of the catalog structures.)

I'll wait then :)

When you're done with that I'll make this change (replacing those three
bool columns with a single char column).

> > Hmmm, must I do anything special about _downgrades_?  Does PostgreSQL
> > support downgrades?
> 
> no

Oh good.  Thanks for clarifying that.

Nico
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