Re: Load distributed checkpoint
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Jim C. Nasby
Тема
Re: Load distributed checkpoint
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20061229202831.GA71246@nasby.net
Ответ на
Re: Load distributed checkpoint (Heikki Linnakangas)
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Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <ZeugswetterA@spardat.at>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Jim C. Nasby" <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Brad Nicholson <bnichols@ca.afilias.info>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <ZeugswetterA@spardat.at>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint "Inaam Rana" <inaamrana@gmail.com>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Re: Load distributed checkpoint Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 09:28:48PM +0000, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > >To my mind the problem with fsync is not that it gives us too little > >control but that it gives too much: we have to specify a particular > >order of writing out files. What we'd really like is a version of > >sync(2) that tells us when it's done but doesn't constrain the I/O > >scheduler's choices at all. Unfortunately there's no such API ... > > The problem I see with fsync is that it causes an immediate I/O storm as > the OS tries to flush everything out as quickly as possible. But we're > not in a hurry. What we'd need is a lazy fsync, that would tell the > operating system "let me know when all these dirty buffers are written > to disk, but I'm not in a hurry, take your time". It wouldn't change the > scheduling of the writes, just inform the caller when they're done. > > If we wanted more precise control of the flushing, we could use > sync_file_range on Linux, but that's not portable. Nevertheless, I think > it would be OK to have an ifdef and use it on platforms that support > it, if it gave a benefit. I believe there's something similar for OS X as well. The question is: would it be better to do that, or to just delay calling fsync until the OS has had a chance to write things out. > As a side note, with full_page_writes on, a checkpoint wouldn't actually > need to fsync those pages that have been written to WAL after the > checkpoint started. Doesn't make much difference in most cases, but we > could take that into account if we start taking more control of the > flushing. Hrm, interesting point, but I suspect the window involved there is too small to be worth worrying about. -- Jim Nasby jim@nasby.net EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell)
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