Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c)

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c)
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RE: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) "Mikheev, Vadim" <vmikheev@SECTORBASE.COM>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
RE: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Tatsuo Ishii <t-ishii@sra.co.jp>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Re: RE: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/src/backend/access/transam ( xact.c xlog.c) Tatsuo Ishii <t-ishii@sra.co.jp>
> Bruce Momjian  writes:
> >> Not really, I thought an ack on a commit would mean that the data
> >> is actually in stable storage, breaking that would be pretty bad
> >> no?
> 
> > The default is to sync on commit, but we need to give people options of
> > several seconds delay for performance reasons.  Inforimx calls it
> > buffered logging, and it is used by most of the sites I know because it
> > has much better performance that sync on commit.
> 
> I have to agree with Alfred here: this does not sound like a feature,
> it sounds like a horrid hack.  You're giving up *all* consistency
> guarantees for a performance gain that is really going to be pretty
> minimal in the WAL context.

It does not give up consistency.  The db is still consistent, it is just
consistent from a few seconds ago, rather than commit time.  This is
standard Informix practice at most law firms I work with.

> 
> Earlier, Vadim was talking about arranging to share fsyncs of the WAL
> log file across transactions (after writing your commit record to the
> log, sleep a few milliseconds to see if anyone else fsyncs before you
> do; if not, issue the fsync yourself).  That would offer less-than-
> one-fsync-per-transaction performance without giving up any guarantees.
> If people feel a compulsion to have a tunable parameter, let 'em tune
> the length of the pre-fsync sleep ...

That would work.

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