Re: LOCK for non-tables
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Simon Riggs
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Re: LOCK for non-tables
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1295036214.23290.97.camel@ebony
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Re: LOCK for non-tables (Tom Lane)
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LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Koichi Suzuki <koichi.szk@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: LOCK for non-tables Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: LOCK for non-tables David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 15:05 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Simon Riggs writes: > > On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 14:48 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > >> In any case I'd rather break apps using "LOCK foo NOWAIT" than break > >> every application using any form of LOCK at all, which is what I think > >> your proposal will amount to in practice. > > > Can I suggest that we don't break anything at all? > > > pg_lock_object(objectname, objecttype, mode); > > or > > pg_lock_sequence(name, mode); > > > is all we need... > > No, that will not work at all. LOCK has to be a utility command. > A function called by SELECT isn't a substitute, because SELECT > will acquire a transaction snapshot before executing the function, > and that breaks many use cases for locks. But it doesn't break the use case for locking sequences, ISTM. Anyway, any suggestion that randomly breaks user applications is not good. If there is a good reason to do that, OK, but I don't see that here. It's a major undertaking trying to write software that runs against PostgreSQL for more than one release. We should be making that easier, not harder. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books/PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
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