Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze
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Andrew Dunstan
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Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze
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a3691704-d176-44be-a500-a2240dbe5b7a@dunslane.net
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PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@comcast.net>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze "Andrey M. Borodin" <x4mmm@yandex-team.ru>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Ants Aasma <ants.aasma@cybertec.at>
RE: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
RE: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>
Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
On 2024-04-08 Mo 19:26, Tom Lane wrote: > Andrew Dunstan writes: >> I quite like the triage idea. But I think there's also a case for being >> more a bit more flexible with those patches we don't throw out. A case >> close to my heart: I'd have been very sad if the NESTED piece of >> JSON_TABLE hadn't made the cut, which it did with a few hours to spare, >> and I would not have been alone, far from it. I'd have been happy to >> give Amit a few more days or a week if he needed it, for a significant >> headline feature. >> I know there will be those who say it's the thin end of the wedge and >> rulez is rulez, but this is my view. > You've certainly been around the project long enough to remember the > times in the past when we let the schedule slip for "one more big > patch". It just about never worked out well, so I'm definitely in > favor of a hard deadline. The trick is to control the tendency to > push in patches that are only almost-ready in order to nominally > meet the deadline. (I don't pretend to be immune from that > temptation myself, but I think I resisted it better than some > this year.) > > If we want to change how things are working I suspect we probably need something a lot more radical than any of the suggestions I've seen floating around. I don't know what that might be, but ISTM we're not thinking boldly enough. cheers andrew -- Andrew Dunstan EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
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