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Jim Nasby
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Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY
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refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Jim Nasby <nasbyj@amazon.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Jim Nasby <nasbyj@amazon.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Alexander Lakhin <exclusion@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Alexander Lakhin <exclusion@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Muhammad Malik <muhammad.malik1@hotmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Muhammad Malik <muhammad.malik1@hotmail.com>
Re: refactoring relation extension and BufferAlloc(), faster COPY Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
On 10/28/22 9:54 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
> b) I found that is quite beneficial to bulk-extend the relation with
>     smgrextend() even without concurrency. The reason for that is the primarily
>     the aforementioned dirty buffers that our current extension method causes.
>
>     One bit that stumped me for quite a while is to know how much to extend the
>     relation by. RelationGetBufferForTuple() drives the decision whether / how
>     much to bulk extend purely on the contention on the extension lock, which
>     obviously does not work for non-concurrent workloads.
>
>     After quite a while I figured out that we actually have good information on
>     how much to extend by, at least for COPY /
>     heap_multi_insert(). heap_multi_insert() can compute how much space is
>     needed to store all tuples, and pass that on to
>     RelationGetBufferForTuple().
>
>     For that to be accurate we need to recompute that number whenever we use an
>     already partially filled page. That's not great, but doesn't appear to be a
>     measurable overhead.
Some food for thought: I think it's also completely fine to extend any 
relation over a certain size by multiple blocks, regardless of 
concurrency. E.g. 10 extra blocks on an 80MB relation is 0.1%. I don't 
have a good feel for what algorithm would make sense here; maybe 
something along the lines of extend = max(relpages / 2048, 128); if 
extend < 8 extend = 1; (presumably extending by just a couple extra 
pages doesn't help much without concurrency).


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