Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes
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Peter Geoghegan
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Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes
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Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes (Andres Freund)
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Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Emanuel Calvo <3manuek@esdebian.org>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Emanuel Calvo <emanuel.calvo@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Pavan Deolasee <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Pavan Deolasee <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Turning off HOT/Cleanup sometimes Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Andres Freund wrote: >> > Of >> > course, that applies in all cases, but when the page is already dirty, >> > the cost of pruning it is probably quite small - we're going to have >> > to write the page anyway, and pruning it before it gets evicted >> > (perhaps even by our scan) will be cheaper than writing it now and >> > writing it again after it's pruned. When the page is clean, the cost >> > of pruning is significantly higher. >> >> "We" aren't going to have to write the page, but someone will. > > If it's already dirty that doesn't change at all. *Not* pruning in that > moment actually will often *increase* the total amount of writes to the > OS. Because now the pruning will happen on the next write access or > vacuum - when the page already might have been undirtied. > > I don't really see the downside to this suggestion. +1. I think, in general, the opportunity cost of not pruning when a page is already dirty is likely to be rather high. In general, it's likely to be worth it. -- Peter Geoghegan
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