Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining
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Merlin Moncure
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Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining
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CAHyXU0yeMHBajnJr475U3fPPTihehST0MpotFRD8BoE9hNNENQ@mail.gmail.com
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Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining (Bruce Momjian)
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[HACKERS] CTE inlining Ilya Shkuratov <motr.ilya@ya.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Yaroslav <ladayaroslav@yandex.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@visena.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig.ringer@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Serge Rielau <serge@rielau.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig.ringer@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Serge Rielau <serge@rielau.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig.ringer@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig.ringer@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Serge Rielau <serge@rielau.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Serge Rielau <serge@rielau.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Albe Laurenz <laurenz.albe@wien.gv.at>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Kenneth Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Petr Jelinek <petr.jelinek@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Julien Rouhaud <julien.rouhaud@dalibo.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Vik Fearing <vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Ilya Shkuratov <motr.ilya@ya.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Adam Brusselback <adambrusselback@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Corey Huinker <corey.huinker@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] CTE inlining Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 05:14:19PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Ilya Shkuratov writes: >> > Ok, it seems that most people in discussion are agree that removing optimization >> > fence is a right thing to do. >> > Nonetheless I still hoping to discuss the algorithm and its implementation. >> >> Yeah, so far we've mainly discussed whether to do that and how to control >> it, not what the actual results would be. > > To summarize, it seems we have two options if we want to add fence > control to CTEs: > > 1. add INLINE to disable the CTE fence > 2. add MATERIALIZE to enable the CTE fence > > or some other keywords. I think most people prefer #2 because: > > * most users writing queries prefer #2 Yeah, I think there was rough consensus on this point. I think it's fair to assume that most (or at least a majority) of queries will benefit from inlining, people would want to opt out of, rather than opt in to, generally good optimization strategies. This will hit some in people today, but this is not a backwards compatibility issue since performance is generally not really fairly described as compatibility criteria. If this feature drops we ought to warn people in the release notes though. merlin
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