Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases
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Ron
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Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases
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6.2.5.6.0.20051116083943.01be0b98@earthlink.net
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Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <LLonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Steve Wampler <swampler@noao.edu>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Steve Wampler <swampler@noao.edu>
OT Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Douglas J. Trainor" <trainor@transborder.net>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sgunderson@bigfoot.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( mudfoot@rawbw.com
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Matthew Nuzum <mattnuzum@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Matthew Nuzum <mattnuzum@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Scott Marlowe <smarlowe@g2switchworks.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Joshua Marsh <icub3d@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alan Stange <stange@rentec.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Vivek Khera <vivek@khera.org>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases Ron <rjpeace@earthlink.net>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Bill McGonigle <bill@bfccomputing.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases Ron <rjpeace@earthlink.net>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Vivek Khera <vivek@khera.org>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Luke Lonergan" <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( Alex Stapleton <alexs@advfn.com>
Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases ( William Yu <wyu@talisys.com>
Got some hard numbers to back your statement up? IME, the Areca 1160's with >= 1GB of cache beat any other commodity RAID controller. This seems to be in agreement with at least one independent testing source: http://print.tweakers.net/?reviews/557 RAID HW from Xyratex, Engino, or Dot Hill will _destroy_ any commodity HW solution, but their price point is considerably higher. ...on another note, I completely agree with the poster who says we need more cache on RAID controllers. We should all be beating on the RAID HW manufacturers to use standard DIMMs for their caches and to provide 2 standard DIMM slots in their full height cards (allowing for up to 8GB of cache using 2 4GB DIMMs as of this writing). It should also be noted that 64 drive chassis' are going to become possible once 2.5" 10Krpm SATA II and FC HDs become the standard next year (48's are the TOTL now). We need controller technology to keep up. Ron At 12:16 AM 11/16/2005, Alex Turner wrote: >Not at random access in RAID 10 they aren't, and anyone with their >head screwed on right is using RAID 10. The 9500S will still beat the >Areca cards at RAID 10 database access patern. > >Alex. > >On 11/15/05, Dave Cramer wrote: > > Luke, > > > > Have you tried the areca cards, they are slightly faster yet. > > > > Dave > > > > On 15-Nov-05, at 7:09 AM, Luke Lonergan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree - you can get a very good one from www.acmemicro.com or > > > > www.rackable.com with 8x 400GB SATA disks and the new 3Ware 9550SX SATA > > > > RAID controller for about $6K with two Opteron 272 CPUs and 8GB of RAM > > > > on a Tyan 2882 motherboard. We get about 400MB/s sustained disk read > > > > performance on these (with tuning) on Linux using the xfs filesystem, > > > > which is one of the most critical factors for large databases. > > > > > > > > > > Note that you want to have your DBMS use all of the CPU and disk channel > > > > bandwidth you have on each query, which takes a parallel database like > > > > Bizgres MPP to achieve. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
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