Re: Collation versioning
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Peter Eisentraut
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Re: Collation versioning
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4f60612c-a7b5-092d-1532-21ff7a106bd5@2ndquadrant.com
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Re: Collation versioning (Christoph Berg)
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Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Collation versioning David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Collation versioning Juan José Santamaría Flecha <juanjo.santamaria@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Juan José Santamaría Flecha <juanjo.santamaria@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Douglas Doole <dougdoole@gmail.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Collation versioning Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Collation versioning Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Collation versioning Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
On 12/09/2018 13:25, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Peter Eisentraut 2018-09-12 <0447ec7b-cdb6-7252-7943-88a4664e7bb7@2ndquadrant.com> >>> Naive idea: make that catalog shared? Collations are system-wide after >>> all. >> >> By the same argument, extensions should be shared, but they are not. > > But extensions put a lot of visible stuff into a database, whereas a > collation is just a line in some table that doesn't get into the way. How about C functions? They are just a system catalog representation of something that exists on the OS. Anyway, we also want to support application-specific collation definitions, so that users can CREATE COLLATION "my_specific_requirements" and use that that in their application, so global collations wouldn't be appropriate for that. Moreover, the fix for a collation version mismatch is, in the simplest case, to go around and REINDEX everything. Making the collation or collation version global doesn't fix that. It would actually make it harder because you couldn't run ALTER COLLATION REFRESH VERSION until after you have rebuilt all affected objects *in all databases*. -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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