Re: leaky views, yet again

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Kevin Grittner
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Re: leaky views, yet again
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4CB58924020000250003690D@gw.wicourts.gov
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leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again bricklen <bricklen@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: leaky views, yet again Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: leaky views, yet again Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: leaky views, yet again "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: leaky views, yet again Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
KaiGai Kohei  wrote:
> Previous security researcher pointed out security is trading-off,
> not all-or-nothing. If we can plug most part of the threat with
> reasonable performance degrading, it is worthwhile to fix up.
I had the pleasure of hearing Admiral Grace Hopper[1] speak at an
ACM luncheon once.  When she discussed security, she asserted that
there was no such thing as security which could not be breached. 
The goal of security efforts should not be to make it perfect,
because you can't; any time you convince yourself you have that you
are simply fooling yourself and missing the vulnerabilities.  In her
view the goal was to make the costs of breaching security higher to
the perpetrator than the benefits.  Each obstacle in their way helps
tip the scales in your favor.
-Kevin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper


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