Re: Issues with Quorum Commit
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Markus Wanner
Тема
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit
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4CAC2E03.10705@bluegap.ch
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Re: Issues with Quorum Commit (Heikki Linnakangas)
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Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Rob Wultsch <wultsch@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Issues with Quorum Commit Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
On 10/06/2010 08:31 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > On 06.10.2010 01:14, Josh Berkus wrote: >> Last I checked, our goal with synch standby was to increase availablity, >> not decrease it. > > No. Synchronous replication does not help with availability. It allows > you to achieve zero data loss, ie. if the master dies, you are > guaranteed that any transaction that was acknowledged as committed, is > still committed. Strictly speaking, it even reduces availability. Which is why nobody actually wants *only* synchronous replication. Instead they use quorum commit or semi-synchronous (shudder) replication, which only requires *some* nodes to be in sync, but effectively replicates asynchronously to the others. From that point of view, the requirement of having one synch and two async standbies is pretty much the same as having three synch standbies with a quorum commit of 1. (Except for additional availability of the later variant, because in case of a failure of the one sync standby, any of the others can take over without admin intervention). Regards Markus Wanner
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