Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions

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Heikki Linnakangas
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Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions
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User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Markus Wanner" <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Greg Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Albe Laurenz" <laurenz.albe@wien.gv.at>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: User-facing aspects of serializable transactions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On Thursday 28 May 2009 04:49:19 Tom Lane wrote:
>> Yeah.  The fundamental problem with all the "practical" approaches I've
>> heard of is that they only work for a subset of possible predicates
>> (possible WHERE clauses).  The idea that you get true serializability
>> only if your queries are phrased just so is ... icky.  So icky that
>> it doesn't sound like an improvement over what we have.
> 
> Is it even possible to have a predicate locking implementation that can verify 
> whether an arbitrary predicate implies another arbitrary predicate?

I don't think you need that for predicate locking. To determine if e.g 
an INSERT and a SELECT conflict, you need to determine if the INSERTed 
tuple matches the predicate in the SELECT. No need to deduce anything 
between two predicates, but between a tuple and a predicate.

--   Heikki Linnakangas  EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com

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