Re: Built-in connection pooling
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Konstantin Knizhnik
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Re: Built-in connection pooling
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43feb3a9-b8c2-9364-62ce-dc53eb31e28d@postgrespro.ru
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Re: Built-in connection pooling (Robert Haas)
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Builtin connection polling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Ivan Novick <inovick@pivotal.io>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Ivan Novick <inovick@pivotal.io>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Borodin <root@simply.name>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Craig Ringer <craig.ringer@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
RE: Built-in connection pooling "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Dave Cramer <davecramer@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladimir@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Vladimir Borodin <root@simply.name>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Adam Brusselback <adambrusselback@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Shay Rojansky <roji@roji.org>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Ryan Pedela <rpedela@datalanche.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Re: Built-in connection pooling Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Builtin connection polling Ivan Novick <inovick@pivotal.io>
On 03.05.2018 20:01, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Merlin Moncure wrote: >> What _I_ (maybe not others) want is a >> faster pgbouncer that is integrated into the database; IMO it does >> everything exactly right. > I have to admit that I find that an amazing statement. Not that > pgbouncer is bad technology, but saying that it does everything > exactly right seems like a vast overstatement. That's like saying > that you don't want running water in your house, just a faster motor > for the bucket you use to draw water from the well. > May be if you are engaged in agriculture at your country house, then having a well with good motor pump is better for watering of plants than water faucet at your kitchen. But most of homeowners prefer to open a tapto wash hands rather than perform some complex manipulations with motor pump. I absolutely sure that external connection poolers will always have their niche: them can be used as natural proxy between multiple clients and DBMS. Usually HA/load balancing also can be done at this level. But there are many cases when users just do not want to worry about connection pooling: them just has some number of clients (which can be larger enough and several times larger than optimal number of Postgres backends) and them want them to access database without introducing some intermediate layers. In this case built-in connection pooler will be the ideal solution. This is from user's point of view. From Postgres developer's point of view, built-in pooler has some technical advantages comparing with external pooler. Some of this advantages can be eliminated by significant redesign of Postgres architecture, for example introducing shared cache of prepared statements... But in any case, the notion of session context and possibility to maintain larger number of opened sessions will always be topical. Some update on status of built-in connection pooler prototype: I managed to run regression and isolation tests for pooled connections. Right now 6 of 185 tests failed are failed for regression tests and 2 of 67 tests failed for isolation tests. For regression tests result may vary depending on parallel schedule, because of manipulations with roles/permissions which are not currently supported. The best results are for sequential schedule: 5 failed tests: this failures caused by differences in pg_prepared_statements caused by "mangled" prepared names. Failures of isolation tests are caused by unsupported advisory locks. -- Konstantin Knizhnik Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com The Russian Postgres Company
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