Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE

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Florian Pflug
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Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE
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в 08:36:01
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Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Per-Database Roles Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Per-Database Roles Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Per-Database Roles Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Per-Database Roles Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Per-Database Roles Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Per-Database Roles Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Per-Database Roles Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Per-Database Roles Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <frost.stephen.p@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <frost.stephen.p@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Per-Database Roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Per-Database Roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Per-Database Roles Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Per-Database Roles Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Per-Database Roles Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Per-Database Roles Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Daniel Farina <daniel@heroku.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE José Luis Tallón <jltallon@nosys.es>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE José Luis Tallón <jltallon@nosys.es>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE José Luis Tallón <jltallon@nosys.es>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE "David E. Wheeler" <david@justatheory.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Daniel Farina <daniel@heroku.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE "Albe Laurenz" <laurenz.albe@wien.gv.at>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Susanne Ebrecht <susanne@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Susanne Ebrecht <susanne@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Susanne Ebrecht <susanne@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Changing the concept of a DATABASE Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
On May22, 2012, at 11:46 , Simon Riggs wrote:
> * Ability to have a Role that can only access one Database
> 
> * Allow user info to be dumped with a database, to make a db
> completely self-consistent

These two could be achieved by having database-local roles I think.

> * Allow databases to be transportable

That would be very useful, but extremely hard to do unless we switch to
per-database XID spaces. Or unless we're content with having databases
only be transportable after some special "MAKE TRANSPORTABLE" operation,
which would freeze all tuples and make the database read-only.

> * Allow users to access tables in >1 database easily, with appropriate rights.

That one I'm very sceptical about. In the long run, I think we want better
separation of databases, not less, and this requirement carries a huge risk
of standing in the way of that. Also, I think that once we integrate the postgres
FDW into core (that's the plan in the long run, right?), we're going to get
a good approximation of that essentially for free.

best regards,
Florian Pflug


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