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Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft
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PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Ian Lawrence Barwick <barwick@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 09:39:08AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> These sound weird since markup was added in 6a5bde7d4:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/release-14.html
> | Remove server and Chapter 34 support for the version 2 wire protocol (Heikki Linnakangas)
> ...
> | Pass doubled quote marks in Chapter 36 SQL command strings literally (Tom Lane)

> -Remove server and libpq support for the version 2 wire protocol (Heikki Linnakangas)
> +Remove server and  support for the version 2 wire protocol (Heikki Linnakangas)

Agreed, fixed.

> > Force custom server variable names to match the pattern used for unquoted SQL identifiers (Tom Lane)
> Say "Require" not force?

Agreed, fixed.

> > This setting was disabled in PostgreSQL version 13.3.
> "disabled" sounds like it was set to "off".  Maybe say it was ignored.

OK, I went with this:

	This setting was ignored starting in
	PostgreSQL version 13.3.

> > Add long-running queries to be canceled if the client disconnects (Sergey Cherkashin, Thomas Munro)
> Should say: Allow

Yes.

> > The server variable client_connection_check_interval allows supporting operating systems, e.g., Linux, to automatically cancel queries by disconnected clients.
> say "some operating systems" ?

Agreed, done.

> > This can be disabled by turning client option "sslsni" off.
> "turning off"

Agreed.

> | Add %P to log_line_prefix to report the parallel group leader (Justin Pryzby)
> 
> Maybe it should say "Allow %P in log_line_prefix to ...", otherwise it sounds
> like the default was changed.

I am not sure, but I changed it as you suggested:

	Allow %P in log_line_prefix to report the
	parallel group leader (Justin Pryzby)

> | Reduce the default value of vacuum_cost_page_miss (Peter Geoghegan) 
> |  This new default better reflects current hardware capabilities. 
> Also say: the previous default was 10.

Uh, we didn't report the new value, so why report the old one?

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