Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft
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Bruce Momjian
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Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft
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20210518140725.GA30270@momjian.us
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Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft (Masahiko Sawada)
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PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Ian Lawrence Barwick <barwick@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Simon Riggs <simon.riggs@enterprisedb.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>
Re: PG 14 release notes, first draft Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:28:49PM +0900, Masahiko Sawada wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:03 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I have committed the first draft of the PG 14 release notes. You can > > see the most current build of them here: > > > > https://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-14.html > > > > I think we need to mention in the release note that > vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor GUC parameter has been removed and > vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor storage parameter has been > deprecated (please refer to commit 9f3665fb and effdd3f3b63). Looking at the full commit message: commit 9f3665fbfc Author: Peter Geoghegan Date: Wed Mar 10 16:27:01 2021 -0800 Don't consider newly inserted tuples in nbtree VACUUM. Remove the entire idea of "stale stats" within nbtree VACUUM (stop caring about stats involving the number of inserted tuples). Also remove the vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor GUC/param on the master branch (though just disable them on postgres 13). The vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor/stats interface made the nbtree AM partially responsible for deciding when pg_class.reltuples stats needed to be updated. This seems contrary to the spirit of the index AM API, though -- it is not actually necessary for an index AM's bulk delete and cleanup callbacks to provide accurate stats when it happens to be inconvenient. The core code owns that. (Index AMs have the authority to perform or not perform certain kinds of deferred cleanup based on their own considerations, such as page deletion and recycling, but that has little to do with pg_class.reltuples/num_index_tuples.) This issue was fairly harmless until the introduction of the autovacuum_vacuum_insert_threshold feature by commit b07642db, which had an undesirable interaction with the vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor mechanism: it made insert-driven autovacuums perform full index scans, even though there is no real benefit to doing so. This has been tied to a regression with an append-only insert benchmark [1]. Also have remaining cases that perform a full scan of an index during a cleanup-only nbtree VACUUM indicate that the final tuple count is only an estimate. This prevents vacuumlazy.c from setting the index's pg_class.reltuples in those cases (it will now only update pg_class when vacuumlazy.c had TIDs for nbtree to bulk delete). This arguably fixes an oversight in deduplication-related bugfix commit 48e12913. [1] https://smalldatum.blogspot.com/2021/01/insert-benchmark-postgres-is-still.html Author: Peter Geoghegan Reviewed-By: Masahiko Sawada Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/CAD21AoA4WHthN5uU6+WScZ7+J_RcEjmcuH94qcoUPuB42ShXzg@mail.gmail.com --> Backpatch: 13-, where autovacuum_vacuum_insert_threshold was added. This was backpatched into PG 13.3, which was released last week: Disable the vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor parameter and storage option (Peter Geoghegan) The notion of tracking stale index statistics proved to interact badly with the autovacuum_vacuum_insert_threshold parameter, resulting in unnecessary full-index scans and consequent degradation of autovacuum performance. The latter mechanism seems superior, so remove the stale-statistics logic. The control parameter for that, vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor, will be removed entirely in v14. In v13, it remains present to avoid breaking existing configuration files, but it no longer does anything. Therefore, it didn't show up in my src/tools/git_changelog output, and I did not include it. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
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