Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions

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Stephen Frost
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Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions
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20190618133703.GM2480@tamriel.snowman.net
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[PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Sascha Kuhl <yogidabanli@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Sascha Kuhl <yogidabanli@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Sergei Kornilov <sk@zsrv.org>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Ian Barwick <ian.barwick@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Gavin Flower <GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz>
Re: [PATCH] Stop ALTER SYSTEM from making bad assumptions Juan José Santamaría Flecha <juanjo.santamaria@gmail.com>
Greetings,

* Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stephen Frost  wrote:
> > I'd further say something along the lines of 'utilities should not
> > modify a postgresql.auto.conf that's in place under a running PostgreSQL
> > cluster'.
> 
> Do we need to differ between "external" and "internal" utilities here?

I don't think so..?  Is there something there that you're thinking would
be different between them?

> > I'd rather say that 'any duplicate items should be removed, and a
> > WARNING emitted when detected', or something along those lines.  Same
> > for comment lines...
> 
> I think it's perfectly fine to silently drop comments (other than the one
> at the very top which says don't touch this file).

I'm not sure why that's different?  I don't really think that I agree
with you on this one- anything showing up in that file that we're ending
up removing must have gotten there because someone or something didn't
realize the rules around managing the file, and that's a problem...

Thanks,

Stephen
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