Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal
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Andres Freund
Тема
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal
Дата
Msg-id
20170126191339.jfs3myvanomsk7ak@alap3.anarazel.de
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[HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Cynthia Shang <cynthia.shang@crunchydata.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Cynthia Shang <cynthia.shang@crunchydata.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vik Fearing <vik@2ndquadrant.fr>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Euler Taveira <euler@timbira.com.br>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Venkata B Nagothi <nag1010@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "Daniel Verite" <daniel@manitou-mail.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Josh Berkus <josh@berkus.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Rename pg_switch_xlog to pg_switch_wal Vladimir Rusinov <vrusinov@google.com>
On 2017-01-26 14:05:43 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > I completely understand that position. I have always been doubtful of > the value of renaming pg_xlog to pg_wal, and I'm not any more > dedicated to the idea now than I was when I committed that patch. But > there was overwhelming support for it, consensus on a level rarely > seen here. I think that consistency was based on the change being a narrow proposition, not a license to run around and change a lot of stuff including the names of binary. > I do not think it can be right to rename the directory and not > anything else. I stand by what I wrote in > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CA+TgmobeHP2qbtMvYxG2x8Pm_9utjRya-rom5XL4QuyA26c1Gg@mail.gmail.com I'm tempted to quote Emerson ;). I don't think the naming of pg_xlog vs. pg_wal doesn't actually have that large an impact, to change the dynamics of the wal vs xlog dichotomy. Sure it's nothing you'd do in a new program, but neither is it very bad. Andres
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