Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
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Bruce Momjian
Тема
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
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20160215211313.GB31273@momjian.us
Ответ на
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. (Kyotaro HORIGUCHI)
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Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. "ktm@rice.edu" <ktm@rice.edu>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Petr Jelinek <petr@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Petr Jelinek <petr@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Sawada Masahiko <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 04:39:15PM +0900, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote: > > I still agree with this plugin approach, but I felt it's still > > complicated a bit, and I'm concerned that patch size has been > > increased. > > Please give me feedbacks. > > Yeah, I feel the same. What make it worse, the plugin mechanism > will get further complex if we make it more flexible for possible > usage as I proposed above. It is apparently too complicated for > deciding whether to load *just one*, for now, converter > function. And no additional converter is in sight. > > I incline to pull out all the plugin stuff of pg_upgrade. We are > so prudent to make changes of file formats so this kind of events > will happen with several-years intervals. The plugin mechanism > would be valuable if we are encouraged to change file formats > more frequently and freely by providing it, but such situation > absolutely introduces more untoward things.. I agreed on ripping out the converter plugin ability of pg_upgrade. Remember pg_upgrade was originally written by EnterpriseDB staff, and I think they expected their closed-source fork of Postgres might need a custom page converter someday, but it never needed one, and at this point I think having the code in there is just making things more complex. I see _no_ reason for community Postgres to use a plugin converter because we are going to need that code for every upgrade from pre-9.6 to 9.6+, so why not just hard-code in the functions we need. We can remove it once 9.5 is end-of-life. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Roman grave inscription +
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