On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:32:48PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 21 December 2012 19:21, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:25:47PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> >> On 20 December 2012 19:29, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> >>
> >> > At this point backward compatibility has paralyzed us from fixing a
> >> > recovery.conf API that everyone agrees is non-optimal, and this has
> >> > gone on for multiple major releases. I don't care what we have to do,
> >> > just clean this up for 9.3!
> >>
> >> The main stall at this point is that the developer who wrote that
> >> patch no longer spends much time working on Postgres. AFAICS there is
> >> nobody working on this for 9.3 mainly because its not a priority, nor
> >> will implementing that fix the OP's request.
> >
> > The job wasn't completed because the demands for backward compatibility
> > were too complex from a coding/user experience perspective, so the
> > original developer just went away.
>
> It's not too complex. You just want that to be true. The original
> developer has actually literally gone away, but not because of this.
Well, Robert and I remember it differently.
Anyway, I will ask for a vote now.
> >> There is no paralysis because there never was a blocker, only a
> >> request for backwards compatibility, which is easily possible to
> >> implement.
> >
> > OK, and I am saying the request for backwards compatibility is rejected.
> > You want to have a vote on that right now?
> >
> > And don't make your typical demands that you will not 'accept' something
> > that isn't backward compatible. I don't care if you accept anything or
> > not, we are moving ahead, with or without you.
> >
> > If we can't get beyond this, I need to start blogging at how insular our
> > developer team is and how we need new people to joint the hackers list
> > and we can start this discussion all over again with a new group.
>
> Yes, I think having some people on this list who make decisions after
> they have heard technical facts would be a welcome change.
OK, I will start blogging too.
-- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
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