Re: TB-sized databases

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: TB-sized databases
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200803172347.m2HNlCD29489@momjian.us
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Re: TB-sized databases Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Re: TB-sized databases Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: TB-sized databases Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
Re: TB-sized databases Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Michael Stone <mstone+postgres@mathom.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Michael Stone <mstone+postgres@mathom.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Pablo Alcaraz <pabloa@laotraesquina.com.ar>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Matthew <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: TB-sized databases Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: TB-sized databases Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
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Re: TB-sized databases Matthew <matthew@flymine.org>
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Re: TB-sized databases Csaba Nagy <nagy@ecircle-ag.com>
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Re: TB-sized databases Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Matthew <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: TB-sized databases Pablo Alcaraz <pabloa@laotraesquina.com.ar>
Re: TB-sized databases Luke Lonergan <llonergan@greenplum.com>
Re: TB-sized databases Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su>

I have _not_ added a TODO for this item.  Let me know if one is needed.

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Tom Lane wrote:
> Ron Mayer  writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> There's something fishy about this --- given that that plan has a lower
> >> cost estimate, it should've picked it without any artificial
> >> constraints.
> 
> > I think the reason it's not picking it was discussed back in this thread
> > too.
> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2005-03/msg00675.php
> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2005-03/msg00684.php
> > My offset 0 is forcing the outer join.
> > [Edit: Ugh - meant cartesian join - which helps this kind of query.]
> 
> Ah; I missed the fact that the two relations you want to join first
> don't have any connecting WHERE clause.
> 
> The concern I mentioned in the above thread was basically that I don't
> want the planner to go off chasing Cartesian join paths in general ---
> they're usually useless and would result in an exponential explosion
> in the number of join paths considered in many-table queries.
> 
> However, in this case the reason that the Cartesian join might be
> relevant is that both of them are needed in order to form an inner
> indexscan on the big table.  I wonder if we could drive consideration
> of the Cartesian join off of noticing that.  It'd take some rejiggering
> around best_inner_indexscan(), or somewhere in that general vicinity.
> 
> Way too late for 8.3, but something to think about for next time.
> 
> 			regards, tom lane
> 
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