Re: SQL feature requests

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: SQL feature requests
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200803121719.m2CHJTb10229@momjian.us
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Re: SQL feature requests (Florian G. Pflug)
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SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
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Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: SQL feature requests "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: SQL feature requests "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <Andreas.Zeugswetter@s-itsolutions.at>
Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt@greenplum.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: SQL feature requests "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt@greenplum.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
Re: SQL feature requests Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: SQL feature requests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Brian Hurt <bhurt@janestcapital.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt@greenplum.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt@greenplum.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: SQL feature requests "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <Andreas.Zeugswetter@s-itsolutions.at>
Re: SQL feature requests Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Chuck McDevitt" <cmcdevitt@greenplum.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: SQL feature requests Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: SQL feature requests Michael Glaesemann <grzm@seespotcode.net>
Re: SQL feature requests "Ben Tilly" <btilly@gmail.com>
Re: SQL feature requests "Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD" <Andreas.Zeugswetter@s-itsolutions.at>

FYI, we decided we didn't want this additional capability.

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Florian G. Pflug wrote:
> Kevin Grittner wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at  3:01 PM, in message <11856.1187899268@sss.pgh.pa.us>,
> > Tom Lane  wrote: 
> >> The only argument I've
> >> heard that carries much weight with me is that it eases porting from
> >> other DBMS's that allow this.  Are there any others besides Oracle?
> >  
> >> select * from (select f1 from t) 
> >  
> > In Sybase:
> >  
> > com.sybase.jdbc2.jdbc.SybSQLException: The derived table expression is missing a correlation name. Check derived table syntax in the Reference Manual.
> > Error code: 11753
> > SQL state: ZZZZZ
> 
> The really funny thing is that pgsql, mysql and at least sybase
> *explicitly* dissallow the no-alias case. Which shows that
>    .) This seems to be common source of confusion and errors.
>    .) Aliasless-Subqueries wouldn't lead to ambigous grammras in those databases.
>       Otherwise, you'd expect to get some more generic syntax error, and not
>       the very explicit "No alias, but expected one".
> 
> I agree with Tom - knowing *why* the standard committee disallows that syntax -
> and why everybody except oracle chose to agree with it would be quite interesting.
> 
> greetings, Florian Pflug
> 
> 
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