Re: Parallel copy
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Heikki Linnakangas
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Re: Parallel copy
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Re: Parallel copy (Tomas Vondra)
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Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Parallel copy Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Kuntal Ghosh <kuntalghosh.2007@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Parallel copy Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Rafia Sabih <rafia.pghackers@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
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RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
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RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
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Re: Parallel copy "Daniel Westermann (DWE)" <daniel.westermann@dbi-services.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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RE: Parallel copy "Hou, Zhijie" <houzj.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Ashutosh Sharma <ashu.coek88@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
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Re: Parallel copy Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Parallel copy Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
On 30/10/2020 22:56, Tomas Vondra wrote: > I agree this design looks simpler. I'm a bit worried about serializing > the parsing like this, though. It's true the current approach (where the > first phase of parsing happens in the leader) has a similar issue, but I > think it would be easier to improve that in that design. > > My plan was to parallelize the parsing roughly like this: > > 1) split the input buffer into smaller chunks > > 2) let workers scan the buffers and record positions of interesting > characters (delimiters, quotes, ...) and pass it back to the leader > > 3) use the information to actually parse the input data (we only need to > look at the interesting characters, skipping large parts of data) > > 4) pass the parsed chunks to workers, just like in the current patch > > > But maybe something like that would be possible even with the approach > you propose - we could have a special parse phase for processing each > buffer, where any worker could look for the special characters, record > the positions in a bitmap next to the buffer. So the whole sequence of > states would look something like this: > > EMPTY > FILLED > PARSED > READY > PROCESSING I think it's even simpler than that. You don't need to communicate the "interesting positions" between processes, if the same worker takes care of the chunk through all states from FILLED to DONE. You can build the bitmap of interesting positions immediately in FILLED state, independently of all previous blocks. Once you've built the bitmap, you need to wait for the information on where the first line starts, but presumably finding the interesting positions is the expensive part. > Of course, the question is whether parsing really is sufficiently > expensive for this to be worth it. Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. Splitting the lines is pretty fast, I think we have many years to come before that becomes a bottleneck. But if it turns out I'm wrong and we need to implement that, the path is pretty straightforward. - Heikki
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