Re: WAL insert delay settings

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Stephen Frost
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Re: WAL insert delay settings
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CAOuzzgrJ1bYh9amgz8jfV2bZESLkXVWFyio7-jYxMmEpsfw5hA@mail.gmail.com
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WAL insert delay settings Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings dataegret <alexey.lesovsky@dataegret.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Ants Aasma <ants.aasma@eesti.ee>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Ants Aasma <ants.aasma@eesti.ee>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andrey Lepikhov <a.lepikhov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: WAL insert delay settings Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Greetings,

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:15 Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On 14/02/2019 11:03, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> But if you add extra sleep() calls somewhere (say because there's also
> limit on WAL throughput), it will affect how fast VACUUM works in
> general. Yet it'll continue with the cost-based throttling, but it will
> never reach the limits. Say you do another 20ms sleep somewhere.
> Suddenly it means it only does 25 rounds/second, and the actual write
> limit drops to 4 MB/s.

I think at a first approximation, you probably don't want to add WAL
delays to vacuum jobs, since they are already slowed down, so the rate
of WAL they produce might not be your first problem.  The problem is
more things like CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY that run at full speed.

That leads to an alternative idea of expanding the existing cost-based
vacuum delay system to other commands.

We could even enhance the cost system by taking WAL into account as an
additional factor.

This is really what I was thinking- let’s not have multiple independent ways of slowing down maintenance and similar jobs to reduce their impact on I/o to the heap and to WAL. 

Thanks!

Stephen
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