Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs

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Hannu Krosing
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Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs
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MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Hannu Krosing <hannuk@google.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Hannu Krosing <hannuk@google.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Hannu Krosing <hannuk@google.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: MaxOffsetNumber for Table AMs Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 3:07 AM Robert Haas  wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:43 PM Matthias van de Meent
> > Storage gains for index-oriented tables can become as large as the
> > size of the primary key by not having to store all primary key values
> > in both the index and the table; which can thus be around 100% of a
> > table in the least efficient cases of having a PK over all columns.
> >
> > Yes, this might be indeed only a 'small gain' for access latency, but
> > not needing to store another copy of your data (and keeping it in
> > cache, etc.) is a significant win in my book.
>
> This is a really good point. Also, if the table is ordered by a
> synthetic logical TID, range scans on the primary key will be less
> efficient than if the primary key is itself the TID. We have the
> ability to CLUSTER on an index for good reasons, and "Automatically
> maintain clustering on a table" has been on the todo list forever.
> It's hard to imagine this will ever be achieved with the current heap,
> though: the way to get there is to have a table AM for which this is
> an explicit goal.

But would this not have the downside that all the secondary indexes
will blow up as they now need to have the full table row as the TID  ?

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Hannu Krosing


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