Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple

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Peter Geoghegan
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wong, Yi Wen" <yiwong@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wong, Yi Wen" <yiwong@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updated tuple Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple "Wood, Dan" <hexpert@amazon.com>
Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix freezing of a dead HOT-updatedtuple Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alvaro Herrera  wrote:
> By the way, I still wonder if there's any way for a new tuple to get
> inserted in the place where a HOT redirect would be pointing to, and
> have it be marked as Frozen, where the old redirect contains a
> non-invalid Xmax.  I tried to think of a way for that to happen, but
> couldn't think of anything.
>
> What I imagine is a sequence like this:
>
> 1. insert a tuple
> 2. HOT-update a tuple
> 3. prune the page, making lp 1 be a redirect (lp 2 is the new tuple)
> 4. start transaction
> 5. HOT-update the tuple again, creating HOT in lp 3
> 6. abort transaction (leaving aborted update in lp 3)
> 7. somehow remove tuple from lp 3, make slot available
> 8. new transaction comes along, inserts tuple in lp 3
> 9. somebody freezes tuple in lp3 (???)
>
> Then we follow the HOT chain, see that Xmin=2 in lp3 and conclude that
> the tuple is part of the chain because of an xid "match".
>
> Basically from step 7 onwards I don't think this is possible, but maybe
> I'm just blind.

For the record, I also think that this is impossible, in part because
pruning requires a cleanup buffer lock (and because HOT chains cannot
span pages). I wouldn't say that I am 100% confident about this,
though.

BTW, is this comment block that appears above
heap_prepare_freeze_tuple() now obsolete, following 20b65522 (and
maybe much earlier commits)?
* NB: It is not enough to set hint bits to indicate something is* committed/invalid -- they might not be set on a standby, or after crash* recovery.  We really need to remove old xids.*/

We WAL-log setting hint bits during freezing now, iff tuple xmin is
before the Xid cutoff and tuple is a heap-only tuple.

-- 
Peter Geoghegan


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