Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks)
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Craig Ringer
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks)
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Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Christian Ullrich <chris@chrullrich.net>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
On 06/09/2013 08:32 AM, MauMau wrote:
... which is why tablespaces aren't disposable, and why creating a tablespace in a RAM disk is such an awful idea.
- Failure of a disk containing data directory or tablespace
If checkpoint can't write buffers to disk because of disk failure, checkpoint cannot complete, thus WAL files accumulate in pg_xlog/.
This means that one disk failure will lead to postgres shutdown.
I'd rather like to be able to recover from this by treating the tablespace as dead, so any attempt to get a lock on any table within it fails with an error and already-in-WAL writes to it just get discarded. It's the sort of thing that'd only be reasonable to do as a recovery option (like zero_damaged_pages) since if applied by default it'd lead to potentially severe and unexpected data loss.
I've seen a couple of people bitten by the misunderstanding that tablespaces are a way to split up your data based on different reliability requirements, and I really need to write a docs patch for http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/manage-ag-tablespaces.html that adds a prominent warning like:
WARNING: Every tablespace must be present before the database can be started. There is no easy way to recover the database if a tablespace is lost to disk failure, deletion, use of volatile storage, etc. <b>Do not put a tablespace on a RAM disk</b>; instead just use UNLOGGED tables.
(Opinions on the above?)
-- Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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