Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication

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Greg Smith
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Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication
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Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Cuong Hoang <climbingrose@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication CSS <css@morefoo.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Andrea Suisani <sickpig@opinioni.net>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Andrea Suisani <sickpig@opinioni.net>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Cuong Hoang <climbingrose@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Cuong Hoang <climbingrose@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Cuong Hoang <climbingrose@gmail.com>
Re: Reliability with RAID 10 SSD and Streaming Replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com>
On 5/20/13 6:32 PM, Merlin Moncure wrote:

> When it comes to databases, particularly in the open source postgres
> world, hard drives are completely obsolete.  SSD are a couple of
> orders of magnitude faster and this (while still slow in computer
> terms) is fast enough to put storage into the modern area by anyone
> who is smart enough to connect a sata cable.

You're skirting the edge of vendor Kool-Aid here.  I'm working on a very 
detailed benchmark vs. real world piece centered on Intel's 710 models, 
one of the few reliable drives on the market.  (Yes, I have a DC S3700 
too, just not as much data yet)  While in theory these drives will hit 
two orders of magnitude speed improvement, and I have benchmarks where 
that's the case, in practice I've seen them deliver less than 5X better 
too.  You get one guess which I'd consider more likely to happen on a 
difficult database server workload.

The only really huge gain to be had using SSD is commit rate at a low 
client count.  There you can easily do 5,000/second instead of a 
spinning disk that is closer to 100, for less than what the 
battery-backed RAID card along costs to speed up mechanical drives.  My 
test server's 100GB DC S3700 was $250.  That's still not two orders of 
magnitude faster though.

-- 
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com

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