Re: per-database locale: createdb switches

Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>>>>> You missed updating the sgml docs, and personally I'd be inclined to
>>>>>> list -l before the individual --lc switches; otherwise it looks fine.
>>>>> Thanks, committed that way.  I noticed that --lc-ctype and --lc-collate
>>>>> were forgotten in SGML docs, so I added them too.
>>>> Should we have a shorthand CREATE DATABASE option like that as well?
>>> createdb is really about convenience;  not sure it is warranted for
>>> CREATE DATABASE.
>> I think unless you are doing something completely funny, you would 
>> usually want to have COLLATE and CTYPE equal.  The fact that you now 
>> have to enter both to get that result could be pretty annoying in 
>> practice, I  would think.
> 
> I agree but I can't think of many cases where we offer one option which
> controls two other options;  can you?

We have cases like that:

initdb --locale
createdb --locale

It looks to me, however, that there is possible confusion about what 
createdb --locale (as well as any possible option to be added to CREATE 
DATABASE) really affects:

initdb --locale controls --lc-ctype, --lc-collate, --lc-messages, 
--lc-monetary, --lc-numeric, --lc-time.

createdb --locale only controls --lc-ctype and --lc-collate.  The 
functionality to have database-specific settings of the other locale 
categories already exists, so why shouldn't those be set as well?

Which raises yet another question, why CTYPE and COLLATE have to be 
hardcoded settings and catalog columns instead of being stored in 
datconfig as database-startup-only settings?