Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3

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Tony Caduto
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Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3
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Pains in upgrading to 8.3 "Phoenix Kiula" <phoenix.kiula@gmail.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Ray Stell <stellr@cns.vt.edu>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 paul rivers <rivers.paul@gmail.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Tony Caduto <tony_caduto@amsoftwaredesign.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 paul rivers <rivers.paul@gmail.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 "Dave Page" <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 "Dave Page" <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 Tony Caduto <tony_caduto@amsoftwaredesign.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 "Scott Marlowe" <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
Re: Pains in upgrading to 8.3 "Scott Marlowe" <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
paul rivers wrote:
>>  
> Going from 8.2.4 and 8.2.6 to 8.3.0 has been painless for me.  
> However, unlike the blogger you cite, I read the directions before, 
> not after, attempting it.


The blogger has a point about pg_dump and restore, it could be much 
better, for example
the backup process could be part of the server core and instead of 
having a fat client where most of the process is running on the client, 
a API could be
used where the backup is generated on the server and then have options 
where it could be left on the server or transferred to the clients PC.

Using pg_dump remotely is becoming a pain because it's not really 
backwards compatible with earlier releases, so you end up having to have 
multiple copies laying around to use on different server versions.

While Firebird is mostly inferior, it's backup system is much nicer that 
PostgreSQL's system.  Firebird uses a backup API, so if you backup 
remotely there is no fat client needed and it eliminates all the 
dependency issues on the client side.  The client access library 
implements the API and that's it.
You of course could hack something similar on PGSQL by using SSH and 
remotely executing pg_dump on the server, but that does not really help 
on windows servers where SSH is not a common thing.

The backup data is coming back to the client regardless, so why not just 
return it as a result set?

Just my opinion on the matter, no flames please.


Thanks,

Tony


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