Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4?

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Tom Lane
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Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4?
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25071.1259711016@sss.pgh.pa.us
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EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Steve Crawford <scrawford@pinpointresearch.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <adsmail@wars-nicht.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum <adsmail@wars-nicht.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Scrappy <scrappy@hub.org>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: [CORE] EOL for 7.4? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Bernd Helmle <mailings@oopsware.de>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Steve Crawford <scrawford@pinpointresearch.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: EOL for 7.4? Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
Greg Stark  writes:
> I still insist it's unrealistic to consider any of these, even 8.2, as
> anything but "best effort" at this point.

Agreed, and we should not pretend otherwise.

> Declaring 8.0 "end of life"
> today is implying that we haven't already been skipping fixing bugs in
> it that would have required major changes. People running 8.1 and 8.2
> should be given the truth that only really important bugs are going to
> cause any significant development for these versions.

The other side of the coin is that people running such old versions are
in it for stability --- they don't *want* bugs fixed, unless they're
bugs they've hit themselves.  Major fixes that would possibly
destabilize the code base would be exactly what's not wanted.  Every
time I get Red Hat to ship an update version, it's only after fighting
tooth and nail to do a "rebase" instead of cherry-picking just the fixes
for bugs that paying customers have specifically complained about.  The
fact that we're pretty conservative about what we back-patch is the only
reason I ever win any of those arguments.
		regards, tom lane

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