Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15
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Justin Pryzby
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Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15
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Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 (Pavel Stehule)
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Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
RE: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 "tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com" <tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Gilles Darold <gilles@darold.net>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Gilles Darold <gilles@darold.net>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Gilles Darold <gilles@darold.net>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 "Joel Jacobson" <joel@compiler.org>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15+1 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15+1 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15+1 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Marcos Pegoraro <marcos@f10.com.br>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
RE: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 "tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com" <tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com>
Re: Schema variables - new implementation for Postgres 15 Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 04:45:19AM +0100, Pavel Stehule wrote: > st 3. 11. 2021 v 14:05 odesílatel Tomas Vondra napsal: > > 1) Not sure why we need to call this "schema variables". Most objects > > are placed in a schema, and we don't say "schema tables" for example. > > And it's CREATE VARIABLE and not CREATE SCHEMA VARIABLE, so it's a bit > > inconsistent. +1 At least the error messages need to be consistent. It doesn't make sense to have both of these: + elog(ERROR, "cache lookup failed for schema variable %u", varid); + elog(ERROR, "cache lookup failed for variable %u", varid); > Yes, there is inconsistency, but I think it is necessary. The name > "variable" is too generic. Theoretically we can use other adjectives like > session variables or global variables and the name will be valid. But it > doesn't describe the fundamentals of design. This is similar to the > package's variables from PL/SQL. These variables are global, session's > variables too. But the usual name is "package variables". So schema > variables are assigned to schemes, and I think a good name can be "schema > variables". But it is not necessary to repeat keyword schema in the CREATE > COMMAND. > > My opinion is not too strong in this case, and I can accept just > "variables" or "session's variables" or "global variables", but I am not > sure if these names describe this feature well, because still they are too > generic. There are too many different implementations of session global > variables (see PL/SQL or T-SQL or DB2). I would prefer "session variable". To me, this feature seems similar to a CTE (which exists for a single statement), or a temporary table (which exists for a single transaction). So "session" conveys a lot more of its meaning than "schema". But don't rename everything just for me... -- Justin
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