Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?
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Bill Moran
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Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core?
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Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Tim Clarke <tim.clarke@manifest.co.uk>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Chris Travers <chris.travers@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? David G Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Guy Rouillier <guy.rouillier@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? David G Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Chris Travers <chris.travers@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Misa Simic <misa.simic@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Shaun Thomas <sthomas@optionshouse.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Dmitriy Igrishin <dmitigr@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Rob Sargent <robjsargent@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Chris Travers <chris.travers@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Marti Raudsepp <marti@juffo.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Chris Travers <chris.travers@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Alberto Cabello Sánchez <alberto@unex.es>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Rob Sargent <robjsargent@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? David G Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Szymon Guz <mabewlun@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Why isn't Java support part of Postgresql core? Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net>
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:22:21 -0700 (PDT) cowwoc wrote: > > Out of curiosity, why is Postgresql's Java support so poor? To trampoline off what others have said: it gets implemented and maintained if people want/need it. But I feel like I have a little more insight into _why_ people aren't taking the effort, based on experience at my last job. We were interested in both pl/Java and pl/PHP. In theory, both of those would allow us to leverage both existing codebases and existing developer skills. We were looking at taking an active role in maintainership of these two languages to facilitate our use. In practice, the amount of code in existing code bases that would be reused for stored procedures turned out to be very low. Additionally, the number of developers who had difficulty adapting to plPGSQL programming was 0. As a result, we found that, in practice, the existing pl/SQL and plPGSQL were _good_enough_ and there was so little benefit from using other languages that we couldn't justify the effort of ensuring they worked consistently. From a meta standpoint, it feels like pl/Java and others are really neat ideas that simply aren't _necessary_ (although they're nice to have). When it comes down to work done for employer, it was just less effort to succeed by going the route of using the existing plSQL/plPGSQL, and employers are all about less money spent to accomplish the goal. Other people may have other opinions or stories or whatever. That's mine. -- Bill Moran I need your help to succeed: http://gamesbybill.com
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